LUNAR MAXIMUMS AND EARTH'S WEATHER IN ASTROMETEOROLOGY

[Theo]

1. The Moon isn’t trapped in the sun gravitational field. It is ruled by it. For instance the New Moon is always in the same hemisphere as the Sun.

2. http://home.att.net/~gigabite/force-dynes.gif

Celestial Navigation Data for 2006 Jun 25 at 16:07:00 UT
For Assumed Position: Latitude N 40 00.0 Longitude W 180 00.0
Almanac Data | Altitude Corrections
Object GHA ****Dec**** Hc Zn | Refr SD PA Sum o ' o ' o ' o | ' ' ' '
SUN 61 05.3 N23 22.9 - 4 52.1 53.7 | --- --- --- ---


MOON 60 54.1 *****N28 22.0**** - 1 17.0 50.3 | --- --- --- ---


VENUS 95 12.0 N18 57.7 +15 56.0 78.4

And, at New Moon, the Moon blocks much of the solar winds from the Sun to the Earth for about two days at that cycle.

Sorry Theo but I had to respond to this one. This is wrong. The moon is a speck in relation to the IMF. We still get the solar winds and no diminishing effect occurs. Just look around the time of the new moon last year from May through September.
Jim

Who said anything about the Moon compared to the IMF? It is well known that the New Moon shields the Earth during that cycle, brief that it is. I said nothing about it in relation to the IMF as a whole.

I responded to what you specifically said Theo. "A new moon blocks much of the solar winds for about two days."

The solar wind speed, or it's components, do not change or diminish around the time of the new moon. Neither before or after.

The moon has no magnetosphere and it blocks basically nothing in much the same manner that a small pebble does in a stream. The IMF and solar winds are related. The solar wind brings it along but the morphology stages of the IMF regulate the solar wind speed/direction and the particles in the solar wind follow the magnetic field lines 90 % of the time.


Jim

Yes, I know this. However, the Moon does not require a magnetosphere to accomplish disruption of the solar stream. Look at the distances. The Moon can lie along a direct line between the Sun and Earth during New Moon, and can disrupt the solar stream. The Earth's magnetic field does much of this job, but the Moon, our closest celestial neighbor can and does disrupt solar wind stream at New Moon cycle. When the lunar nodes are within orb at new moons, you can also see this effect during Solar Eclipses quite well. Check out the data sometime.

[Jim Hughes]

Yes, I know this. However, the Moon does not require a magnetosphere to accomplish disruption of the solar stream. Look at the distances. The Moon can lie along a direct line between the Sun and Earth during New Moon, and can disrupt the solar stream. The Earth's magnetic field does much of this job, but the Moon, our closest celestial neighbor can and does disrupt solar wind stream at New Moon cycle. When the lunar nodes are within orb at new moons, you can also see this effect during Solar Eclipses quite well. Check out the data sometime.

Like I mentioned before it's a pebble in a stream. The water gets diverted but the flow rate and direction are the same.

My reference about a magnetosphere and not magnetic field was related to how the solar winds would easily wrap around the backside of the moon. Is there a tear drop like cavity? Yes but it is very small.

I do not have to have to check out the solar wind data or it's component changes in regards to the new moon. I have monitored it religously every single day for the past 10 years. Unless I am out of town of course. I have even been downloading daily ACE Data for over eight years now. I have a very large data base and it is at my fingertips.

No changes in the solar wind components occur Theo. Please show me a research paper that says otherwise. I am not even worried about whether it was peer reviewed.

Here's the bottom line. If you have ever gone back and read any of my previous posts you would know that I believe in the weather/climate relationship between the solar wind speed, magnetic field vectors, particle levels etc...

I would not even blink for a moment if a new moon was about to occur in tandem with an upcoming increase in these variables. They will occur regardless of whether a new moon is present and their levels will not be effected.


Jim

[Theo]

1. The Moon isn’t trapped in the sun gravitational field. It is ruled by it. For instance the New Moon is always in the same hemisphere as the Sun.

2. http://home.att.net/~gigabite/force-dynes.gif

Celestial Navigation Data for 2006 Jun 25 at 16:07:00 UT
For Assumed Position: Latitude N 40 00.0 Longitude W 180 00.0
Almanac Data | Altitude Corrections
Object GHA ****Dec**** Hc Zn | Refr SD PA Sum o ' o ' o ' o | ' ' ' '
SUN 61 05.3 N23 22.9 - 4 52.1 53.7 | --- --- --- ---


MOON 60 54.1 *****N28 22.0**** - 1 17.0 50.3 | --- --- --- ---


VENUS 95 12.0 N18 57.7 +15 56.0 78.4

And, at New Moon, the Moon blocks much of the solar winds from the Sun to the Earth for about two days at that cycle.

Sorry Theo but I had to respond to this one. This is wrong. The moon is a speck in relation to the IMF. We still get the solar winds and no diminishing effect occurs. Just look around the time of the new moon last year from May through September.
Jim

Who said anything about the Moon compared to the IMF? It is well known that the New Moon shields the Earth during that cycle, brief that it is. I said nothing about it in relation to the IMF as a whole.

I responded to what you specifically said Theo. "A new moon blocks much of the solar winds for about two days."

The solar wind speed, or it's components, do not change or diminish around the time of the new moon. Neither before or after.

The moon has no magnetosphere and it blocks basically nothing in much the same manner that a small pebble does in a stream. The IMF and solar winds are related. The solar wind brings it along but the morphology stages of the IMF regulate the solar wind speed/direction and the particles in the solar wind follow the magnetic field lines 90 % of the time.
Jim

Yes, heard you the first time Jim. I am talking distance, and angle. You do know that the Moon is perfectly situated to block the Sun during eclipses, yes? And, even a small pebble - such as a Moon 2,000 miles across relative to ten earth circumferences away from Earth - has its effects. Solar eclipses remind us of the mathematics. Physics.

[Jim Hughes]

1. The Moon isn’t trapped in the sun gravitational field. It is ruled by it. For instance the New Moon is always in the same hemisphere as the Sun.

2. http://home.att.net/~gigabite/force-dynes.gif

Celestial Navigation Data for 2006 Jun 25 at 16:07:00 UT
For Assumed Position: Latitude N 40 00.0 Longitude W 180 00.0
Almanac Data | Altitude Corrections
Object GHA ****Dec**** Hc Zn | Refr SD PA Sum o ' o ' o ' o | ' ' ' '
SUN 61 05.3 N23 22.9 - 4 52.1 53.7 | --- --- --- ---


MOON 60 54.1 *****N28 22.0**** - 1 17.0 50.3 | --- --- --- ---


VENUS 95 12.0 N18 57.7 +15 56.0 78.4

And, at New Moon, the Moon blocks much of the solar winds from the Sun to the Earth for about two days at that cycle.

Sorry Theo but I had to respond to this one. This is wrong. The moon is a speck in relation to the IMF. We still get the solar winds and no diminishing effect occurs. Just look around the time of the new moon last year from May through September.
Jim

Who said anything about the Moon compared to the IMF? It is well known that the New Moon shields the Earth during that cycle, brief that it is. I said nothing about it in relation to the IMF as a whole.

I responded to what you specifically said Theo. "A new moon blocks much of the solar winds for about two days."

The solar wind speed, or it's components, do not change or diminish around the time of the new moon. Neither before or after.

The moon has no magnetosphere and it blocks basically nothing in much the same manner that a small pebble does in a stream. The IMF and solar winds are related. The solar wind brings it along but the morphology stages of the IMF regulate the solar wind speed/direction and the particles in the solar wind follow the magnetic field lines 90 % of the time.
Jim

Yes, heard you the first time Jim. I am talking distance, and angle. You do know that the Moon is perfectly situated to block the Sun during eclipses, yes? And, even a small pebble - such as a Moon 2,000 miles across relative to ten earth circumferences away from Earth - has its effects. Solar eclipses remind us of the mathematics. Physics.

Now your talking about an eclipse and not every new moon. This might help your case. I think you would still have a better case of talking about possible minor changes in magnetic field vectors than you would solar wind speed. Mind you it would still be an extremely small effect (Not talking about the weather or climate just what it could possibly do to the solar wind/IMF components)


Jim

[Theo]

1. The Moon isn’t trapped in the sun gravitational field. It is ruled by it. For instance the New Moon is always in the same hemisphere as the Sun.

2. http://home.att.net/~gigabite/force-dynes.gif

Celestial Navigation Data for 2006 Jun 25 at 16:07:00 UT
For Assumed Position: Latitude N 40 00.0 Longitude W 180 00.0
Almanac Data | Altitude Corrections
Object GHA ****Dec**** Hc Zn | Refr SD PA Sum o ' o ' o ' o | ' ' ' '
SUN 61 05.3 N23 22.9 - 4 52.1 53.7 | --- --- --- ---


MOON 60 54.1 *****N28 22.0**** - 1 17.0 50.3 | --- --- --- ---


VENUS 95 12.0 N18 57.7 +15 56.0 78.4

And, at New Moon, the Moon blocks much of the solar winds from the Sun to the Earth for about two days at that cycle.

Sorry Theo but I had to respond to this one. This is wrong. The moon is a speck in relation to the IMF. We still get the solar winds and no diminishing effect occurs. Just look around the time of the new moon last year from May through September.
Jim

Who said anything about the Moon compared to the IMF? It is well known that the New Moon shields the Earth during that cycle, brief that it is. I said nothing about it in relation to the IMF as a whole.

I responded to what you specifically said Theo. "A new moon blocks much of the solar winds for about two days."

The solar wind speed, or it's components, do not change or diminish around the time of the new moon. Neither before or after.

The moon has no magnetosphere and it blocks basically nothing in much the same manner that a small pebble does in a stream. The IMF and solar winds are related. The solar wind brings it along but the morphology stages of the IMF regulate the solar wind speed/direction and the particles in the solar wind follow the magnetic field lines 90 % of the time.
Jim

Yes, heard you the first time Jim. I am talking distance, and angle. You do know that the Moon is perfectly situated to block the Sun during eclipses, yes? And, even a small pebble - such as a Moon 2,000 miles across relative to ten earth circumferences away from Earth - has its effects. Solar eclipses remind us of the mathematics. Physics.

Now your talking about an eclipse and not every new moon. This might help your case. I think you would still have a better case of talking about possible minor changes in magnetic field vectors than you would solar wind speed. Mind you it would still be an extremely small effect (Not talking about the weather or climate just what it could possibly do to the solar wind/IMF components)
Jim

In astrophysics Jim, as you know, even "small effects" can be quite substantial in the scheme of things cosmically.

[gigabite]

Now if we are talking astrophysics you may both want to consider gravitational lensing at the instant of the Earth, Moon, Sun alignment, near the time of the New Moon. There was a case in May of 2003 when there was a sizable flare at the time of the New Moon and coincidently a major tornado out break occurred.

At the New Moon light, EMF, solar wind, and whatever is caught up in the alignment is bent around the moon at an angle of seven minutes and jetted toward earth.

[Theo]

Now if we are talking astrophysics you may both want to consider gravitational lensing at the instant of the Earth, Moon, Sun alignment, near the time of the New Moon. There was a case in May of 2003 when there was a sizable flare at the time of the New Moon and coincidently a major tornado out break occurred.

At the New Moon light, EMF, solar wind, and whatever is caught up in the alignment is bent around the moon at an angle of seven minutes and jetted toward earth.

Excellent point Gigabite. That's a fun area of study, gravitational lensing. There are some good motion graphics & maps coming out on the Moon's motion - see May 15 issue at http://www.Spaceweather.com on Lunar librations captured photographically. View the archives for May 15. Astromets study these for lunar motions, and its angle relation between Earth, and Sun and weather correlation.

[gigabite]

TORNADO OUTBREAK 2003
REF 1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outbreak_of_2003

2003 Apr 1 19:21 NEW MOON
May 1 7:40 406528 km -- N- 4h APOGEE
REF 2 http://www.jgiesen.de/planets/moon/paca ... pCalc.html

2003 Daily Solar Data
REF 3 http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ftpdir/indices/ ... 03_DSD.txt
----------------------------------------------------------FLARES
**************SUN SPOT AREA********* C M X S 1 2 3
2003 04 21 126 154 ***640*** 2 -999 B3.0 3 1 0 6 1 0 0
2003 04 22 132 147 ***570*** 1 -999 B4.7 5 0 0 3 0 0 0
2003 04 23 133 152 ***670*** 1 -999 B4.9 5 2 0 1 2 0 0
2003 04 24 128 171 ***690*** 3 -999 B4.1 9 1 0 4 1 0 0
2003 04 25 144 173 ***950*** 0 -999 B6.3 10 1 0 6 0 0 0
2003 04 26 144 193 **1270*** 3 -999 B5.3 8 4 0 9 1 0 0
2003 04 27 154 200 **1370*** 0 -999 B7.1 10 1 0 5 0 1 0
2003 04 28 152 175 **1460*** 0 -999 B5.7 7 0 0 2 0 0 0
2003 04 29 155 224 **1640*** 0 -999 B5.8 13 1 0 4 1 0 0
2003 04 30 154 160 **1390*** 2 -999 B4.3 2 0 0 1 0 0 0
2003 05 01 149 171 **1710*** 1 -999 B5.2 14 0 0 7 0 0 0
2003 05 02 144 175 **1750*** 0 -999 B3.6 3 1 0 6 0 0 0
2003 05 03 148 134 **1440*** 0 -999 B5.4 2 0 0 2 0 0 0
2003 05 04 142 172 **1850*** 2 -999 B5.8 4 0 0 6 0 0 0 The Most Prolific Day of the Outbreak Sequence SEE REF 1
2003 05 05 129 144 **1400*** 1 -999 B5.1 4 0 0 3 0 0 0
2003 05 06 129 117 **1480*** 0 -999 B5.4 7 0 0 1 0 0 0
2003 05 07 110 109 **1160*** 0 -999 B6.0 9 0 0 2 0 0 0
2003 05 08 101 *33 ***300*** 0 -999 B5.3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0

NOTE: THE MOON ORBITS AT 90 MPH THE EARTH ROTATES AT 1000 MPH