NOAA article: warming in hurricane formation area in 20th C.

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NOAA article: warming in hurricane formation area in 20th C.

#1 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue May 02, 2006 3:46 pm

This is interesting. It is a lot better than many of the other articles out there dealing with global warming. This could cause some interesting debate...

Here is the article from NOAA...

Warming of main hurricane formation area in 20th Century

I think this is interesting. What do you think?
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#2 Postby Camille_2_Katrina » Tue May 02, 2006 3:49 pm

:eek: :eek: :eek:
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#3 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue May 02, 2006 3:50 pm

Could natural atmospheric factors be playing a part in this? Any thoughts?
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#4 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue May 02, 2006 3:51 pm

Its a cycle...Also the rest of the world is far below avg.
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#5 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue May 02, 2006 3:54 pm

Actually, there could be more than we think factoring into this cycle, such as natural atnospheric patterns. Any thoughts on this? Also, could some of those natural atmospheric patterns be influencing a decrease in tropical cyclone activity in other basins?

I think this article is interesting because the development area in the Atlantic mentioned has generally warmed in the 20th Century, other than for natural cooling cycles in between. Any thoughts?
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#6 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue May 02, 2006 4:15 pm

Any thoughts? This is a REALLY INTERESTING article...
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#7 Postby x-y-no » Tue May 02, 2006 4:22 pm

I posted a short comment about a new paper by Phil Klotzbach on global cycle activity 1986 - 2005 in the global weather forum.

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=83951
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#8 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue May 02, 2006 4:22 pm

That article is very interesting...depending on what happens out over those waters our cape verde seasons could heat up
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#9 Postby CHRISTY » Tue May 02, 2006 4:37 pm

This is what is happening right now....look at the SST's around these areas,to me they are ahead of schedule.

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#11 Postby MGC » Tue May 02, 2006 5:01 pm

First paragraph of the article uses the words "suggests" and "may." I didn't know these two word were scientific. I want proof and this article lacks any. Still unconvinced of AGW......MGC
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#12 Postby x-y-no » Tue May 02, 2006 5:15 pm

MGC wrote:First paragraph of the article uses the words "suggests" and "may." I didn't know these two word were scientific. I want proof and this article lacks any. Still unconvinced of AGW......MGC


You're looking for "proof" in a press article?

And you're not going to find 100% proof of anything in nature, so in a very real sense "suggests" and "may" are quintessentially scientific words.
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#13 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue May 02, 2006 5:25 pm

MGC wrote:First paragraph of the article uses the words "suggests" and "may." I didn't know these two word were scientific. I want proof and this article lacks any. Still unconvinced of AGW......MGC


I never even posted this article as proof of global warming or because I believe in serious global warming. I just posted it because it is an interesting article.

Also, why the hard feelings and animosity? Just because the article lacks immediate proof doesn't mean that it is not a good article. For a press release article, it is a good one, especially for open minds. Also, compare this article to the other articles out there which tend to be very biased on one direction or another regarding global warming/cycles. This is much better than many other articles out there.
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#14 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue May 02, 2006 5:26 pm

CHRISTY and jschlitz, this is NOT the thread for posting SSTs and anomalies. Can you both please do that in the proper thread on SSTs and anomalies? Thanks.

This thread is for discussing the article I posted. Thanks.
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#15 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue May 02, 2006 5:33 pm

Any more thoughts related to the article?
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#16 Postby MGC » Tue May 02, 2006 9:57 pm

CVW, I have no hard feeling or anomisty towards anyone here. I was discrediting the author thats all. I belive the globe is warming, just that it is not human induced. When I took the vast majority of my science classes years ago, I don't recall being allowed to use the term "suggest" of "may" when we were making a conclusion. Our conclusion had to be black-and-white, X causes Y. We were not allowed to speculate, but I guess science has changed quite a bit since I concluded my studies......MGC
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#17 Postby gatorcane » Tue May 02, 2006 11:39 pm

I think you like the article because your name is mentioned in it.... :lol:

I think this article is a great find CapeVerdeWave and a good read.
To have so many records broken last year seems very strange...I just hope that things calm down this year... :eek:
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#18 Postby boca » Wed May 03, 2006 7:30 am

If global warming is true why are the rest of the sea basin areas near or below average in temp and activity.The article is a good read though.
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#19 Postby x-y-no » Wed May 03, 2006 7:41 am

boca wrote:If global warming is true why are the rest of the sea basin areas near or below average in temp and activity.The article is a good read though.


I don't think it's accurate to say the other basins are near or below average in temperature. Activity is, of course, the subject of quite a lot of current research. I'd say the jury is still out on that one.
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#20 Postby OuterBanker » Wed May 03, 2006 9:06 am

The data is based on a model, the GFDL no less. We all know how inaccurate it is a few days out. Imagine projecting it out a hundred years.
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