Unnamed Subtropical Storm?

#1 Postby **Hurricanehink** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:13 pm

According to the Zeta report, located http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL302005_Zeta.pdf, there was an unnamed subtropical storm earlier in 2005. That is huge news, and means there was a 28th storm. This isn't Gamma we're talking about. But what is it then? Could it be STD 22, even though we have the report? Something else? Anyone know anything about this?

Epsilon_Fan · #2 Postby **Epsilon_Fan** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:23 pm

I can't find anything on the Zeta report about it... what section?

#3 Postby **P.K.** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:25 pm

It is in the footer on the first page.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #4 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:51 pm

Interesting....Could be that system that hit the cape back in late June that could of been Bret. Who knows.

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #5 Postby **senorpepr** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:53 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Interesting....Could be that system that hit the cape back in late June that could of been Bret. Who knows.

No... see the following...

HURAKAN wrote:Just got this via e-mail from the NHC:

Sandy Delgado wrote:
In Zeta's final report the NHC is commenting on an unnamed subtropical storm that formed earlier in the 2005 hurricane season. Will the NHC have a report on this storm as well? In what month did it form?

Thanks,

Have a good day!

Yes, we will be preparing a report on this system. It was in October.

--
James L. Franklin

Hurricane Specialist, National Hurricane Center
NOAA/NWS/Tropical Prediction Center
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Email: James.Franklin@noaa.gov
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KWT · #6 Postby **KWT** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:58 pm

Hmm, this should be very intresting, so it occured in October then!

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #7 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:59 pm

How on earth did I miss this? Could be Subtropical depression 22 getting upgraded?

#8 Postby **P.K.** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:00 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Could be Subtropical depression 22 getting upgraded?

Unlikely as the report for that system is already out and keeps it at 30kts.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #9 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:10 pm

Yeah...Thanking back there was a system in the far northeastern Atlantic that was around 45 to 50 north that did get st2.5 some time around there? If thats not it then I don't have a idea.

#10 Postby **P.K.** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:18 pm

That was more recently. Well the area where Vince formed did show up as a ST1.5 on the 5th Oct, which was three days before it was named subtropical.

KWT · #11 Postby **KWT** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:23 pm

This is really very intresting indeed, I do hope they'd hurry up and tell us when this system occured!
I personally can't think what system it can be though there were several invests during October, or could it be a hybrid feature?
Was there any other system in October like this???

James · #12 Postby **James** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:24 pm

To be overlooked maybe it occured when all the focus was on Wilma and Alpha.

KWT · #13 Postby **KWT** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:30 pm

I've got a feeling that may well be the case James, while the floaters were on alpha and Wilma it was missed...though if thats the case thats very poor indeed from the NHC, even if we were keeping their main attention on wilma and Alpha there is still other satilite images othe rthen the floaters.

James · #14 Postby **James** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:33 pm

Come to mention, while watching a satellite loop of Hurricane Beta, a swirl appears in the area south of Nova Scotia around the 30th of October. Perhaps that's the system, though I'll admit it's a real longshot.

#15 Postby **P.K.** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:46 pm

What about this one? Image is the 18th Oct at 1200 GMT.

Might not be so I'll keep looking. (Hope it isn't one of the already known systems)

#16 Postby **terstorm1012** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:58 pm

KWT wrote:I've got a feeling that may well be the case James, while the floaters were on alpha and Wilma it was missed...though if thats the case thats very poor indeed from the NHC, even if we were keeping their main attention on wilma and Alpha there is still other satilite images othe rthen the floaters.

Within the whole mess of systems that was TS Tammy and all that associated rainfall, there was a small system that made landfall in NJ near Atlantic City. It was mixed in with the general stormsystem that caused all that flooding across the NE and New England at the time.

that could be it.

Hyperstorm · #17 Postby **Hyperstorm** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:16 pm

I think they are talking about this low pressure center that you see just west of the Azores in early October.

Other than this system, the only other system I see with a potential of being classified as an unnamed subtropical cyclone would be STD 22 before/after it was operationally classified. Although, a low pressure just west of the Canary Islands during the first couple of days in October might also be examined.

Derek Ortt · #18 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:30 pm

I would have perferred the April cyclone, or the unnamed system that hit Carolina in June also to have been classified (the June one as a TD)

Weatherfreak000 · #19 Postby **Weatherfreak000** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:09 pm

Wow this is indeed very interesting I suppose I see why they gave us some many reports lately lol.

#20 Postby **george_r_1961** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:00 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I would have perferred the April cyclone, or the unnamed system that hit Carolina in June also to have been classified (the June one as a TD)

Derek I agree about the April one. Even a storm2k forecaster agreed with me that it probably had enough tropical features to be classified as a subtropical storm.

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