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#21 Postby Mezocyclone » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:38 am

This a rather unusual situation with consideration to where this appears to be developing.. The Eastern side of the Atlantic is not generally conducive to Tropical Storms, either North or South of the equator and certainly not something that we might experience this far South.. But,, changes are taking place all across the Planet as far as our weather is being represented. in our interpretations,,.

Take a Look at where Hurricane Vince Started last year and how quickly the NHC/TPC jumped on that one...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/gr ... L2305W.GIF

Click on the Link in the previous post...

It sure looks like a Tropical Cyclone to this observer...

I am taking into consideration that 2 Southern Seasons ago there was a significant Hurricane that formed and came onshore in South America and was poo pooed off by many that thought the development was not possible, until the NHC brought Goes Floater over the system and it sure was a cat#3 at its peak... JMHO,,, most say it was a weak cat#1 but scats and shipping reports say different, just the Sat View tells a great visual story.. Funny in a morbid sence, that the damage reports were played down and almost nonexistant in the aftermath after landfall...

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/brazi ... 228ls1.gif

You and all who view this thought can write off a Southern Atlantic Season as it developes in the years to come, but the reality is quite apparent in the statistics.. We are seeing systems that in other parts of the world would be Named and Identified as Tropical Cyclones..

The System of identification needs to be standardized across the Planet,, to include the South Atlantic Ocean.....
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#22 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:39 am

I agree mesocyclone...It is looking very good this morning this reminds me of the satellite pics of the April 1991 storm.
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#23 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:43 am

not looking so good now...All the convection is being formed in a northern band. Hopefully this is a weak system thing.
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#24 Postby P.K. » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:38 am

FQNT50 LFPW 210931

A
SECURITE
WEATHER BULLETIN FOR METAREA 2, METEO-FRANCE,
TOULOUSE, TUESDAY 21 FEBRUARY 2006 AT 09 UTC.

- WIND SPEED IN BEAUFORT SCALE - SEA : TOTAL SIGNIFICANT -
- PLEASE BE AWARE, WIND GUSTS CAN BE A FURTHER 40 PERCENT STRONGER
THAN THE AVERAGES GIVEN HERE, AND MAXIMUM WAVES MAY BE UP TO TWICE
THE SIGNIFICANT HEIGHT.


PART 2 : GENERAL SYNOPSIS, TUESDAY 21 AT 00 UTC


ITCZ ALONG 6N9W 2N21W 1N26W 1N50W.

PART 3 : AREA FORECASTS TO WEDNESDAY 22 AT 12 UTC

POINTE NOIRE :
MAINLY SOUTHEAST 2 TO 4, LOCALLY EASTERLY IN FAR WEST. SLIGHT,
LOCALLY MODERATE IN WEST. THUNDERSQUALLS WITH SEVERE GUSTS.

This is the best I can do for a visible image in that area, Meteosat-8 is having problems at the moment.

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#25 Postby Coredesat » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:12 pm

I found this, but it only shows the northern part of this system:

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#26 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:50 pm

it looks to be sheared....

but, on the other hand that low pressure system over southern africa looks pretty impressive...
Bet they are getting some pretty nasty weather there now.

https://afweather.afwa.af.mil/images/sa ... 19IR_L.GIF
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#27 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:19 pm

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#28 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:21 pm

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#29 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:27 pm

2 QUESTIONS: what is the shaer in the area of this storm?

what is the earliest a TS has formed in the south atlantic?
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#30 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:33 pm

GFS @ 00 hour
gfs 2006022112 Forecast 850200shear

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#31 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:47 pm

ok but the area is just off the bottom right corner of the picture
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#32 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:11 pm

Looks what the sinking air of the central south Atlantic can do.
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#33 Postby senorpepr » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:06 pm

fact789 wrote:what is the earliest a TS has formed in the south atlantic?


Keep in mind that this is the Southern Hemisphere. This isn't "early". A tropical cyclone developing in the Southern Hemisphere in late February is like a tropical cyclone developing in the Northern Hemisphere in late August.
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#34 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:10 pm

well... we know of a whole 3 tropical storms or hurricanes to form in the SH, and the earliest was in january of 2004
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#35 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:23 pm

ok...where is this so called system on the quickscat pics posted here??? I see a lot of rain contaminated winds...but no closed circulation...it does look like some heavy convection, but you see that in alot of waves...I'm not raising my "OMG We Are All Going To Die" banners until either I see something noteworthy or the NHC says something about the "system" just my $0.02
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#36 Postby senorpepr » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:39 pm

brunota2003 wrote:ok...where is this so called system on the quickscat pics posted here??? I see a lot of rain contaminated winds...but no closed circulation...it does look like some heavy convection, but you see that in alot of waves...I'm not raising my "OMG We Are All Going To Die" banners until either I see something noteworthy or the NHC says something about the "system" just my $0.02


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#37 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:45 pm

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nothing to note here
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#38 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:58 pm

Ok its gone now...I been fellowing that system over Africa at around 20 south...It is moving west-northwestward it appears. Lets see if it can pull a Aussia like clare system. The waters are warm next to the coast of africa.
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#39 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:04 pm

senorpepr wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:ok...where is this so called system on the quickscat pics posted here??? I see a lot of rain contaminated winds...but no closed circulation...it does look like some heavy convection, but you see that in alot of waves...I'm not raising my "OMG We Are All Going To Die" banners until either I see something noteworthy or the NHC says something about the "system" just my $0.02


That post just earned you one gold star.

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#40 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:21 pm

There is a reason why no systems form normally down there. In that is reason is there is a super central south Atlantic high that has one heck of alot of sinking air. In which this run into it. I still believe it had a some what closed LLC with 35 knot winds based on the quickscat. Irene,charley,emily all had there times when the quickscats did not pick up the LLC in both charley,emily where hurricanes.

I would watch with interest the system about ready to come off at 20 south...At least this is something to do. I enjoy watching these kind of systems.


I will believe as I will why because I enjoy tropical weather...In thats half the fun. :)
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