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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Upton New York 
331 PM EST Wednesday Feb 8 2006 
Short term (tonight and thursday)... yet another trough of low 
pressure/weak cold front is sinking south through the region this 
afternoon/evening producing some scattered flurries as it passes. 
Will reflect the remainder of this afternoon in the zones to 
reflect scattered flurries. With loss of solar heating clouds should 
thin out this evening (where the exist over western portions of County Warning Area 
now) and winds should diminish to around 5 miles per hour or so. The 
relatively light winds and minimal sky cover should allow for 
decent (though not ideal) radiational cooling to set up...ad given 
dew points around 10 by sunrise...expect most locations in New Jersey/CT 
and inland New York locations to have lows generally 15-20 (along west/ the lifted index 
Pine barrens)...W/ lows 20-25 New York metropolitan and most of Long Island 
(consistent west/ blend mav/met/FWC guidance). 
With low level thickness prognosticated to be about the same (maybe a tad 
cooler) than this afternoons values...expect highs around 
todays...and consistent with blend of mav/met/FWC guidance. Do 
expect low level downslope flow and increasing subsidence as high 
builds in from SW to have sky conditions trend to M sunny by 
afternoon. 
&& 
Short term (thursday night through saturday)... 
as things in the longer term are trending towards a European model (ecmwf)/GFS 
blend (more on this below)...leaned more towards GFS in the short 
term. Thursday night should be dry as high pressure builds offshore to our 
S...W/ lows generally a tad warmer than tonight as west-SW return flow 
sets up late (once again blend of mav/met/FWC guidance used for 
low temperatures). Because of phasing insouthernated west/ southern stream GFS has clipper 
like system for Friday/Friday night passing slowly to our N/W...as a 
result will be under a prolong period of weak middle level warm air advection and 
positive vorticity advection...but with SW flow in low levels (typically a drier 
flow)...have only gone with slight chance probability of precipitation for snow Friday and Friday 
night. While it appears precipitation likely should end late Friday 
night...overall uncertainty warrants having slight chance probability of precipitation 
all of Friday night. 
Given expected cloud cover went with cooler FWC numbers for highs 
Friday (mainly m30s west/ some areas across north/west zones a30)...and with lean 
towards GFS used mav numbers for lows Friday night. Should be between 
the clipper and potential coastal storm Saturday...however given 
expected passage (regardless of model) of weak 500 mb short wave...have 
slight chance probability of precipitation all day Sat...though did transition form SW to S 
in the afternoon to reflect possibility of steadier precipitation 
developing ahead of potential coastal low...though it appears that 
regardless of model that any snow fall received on Saturday would 
be very light...probably not even amounting to a dusting. 
&& 
Long term (saturday night through wednesday)... 
basically 2 model camps the Canadian/NOGAPS/extension of NAM west/ a 
weaker system passing well offshore (but quite a bit slower than 
other camp)...this would spell no precipitation for the 
region...just continued cold. The other Camp is the 
GFS/UKMET/ECMWF which have a coastal low deepen off near the southeast 
then middle Atlantic coasts Sat and Sat night and then pass somewhere 
southeast of Cape Cod from Sunday into Sunday night. Have opted for the 
latter Camp for now as most models have trended in this direction 
over their past few runs. 
For now European model (ecmwf) is in between UKMET and GFS track (and a tad slower 
and weaker)...so basically followed as a compromise...but note 
that many GFS ensemble members support the operational 12z GFS 
solution so the situation bears close watching. For now have gone 
with chance probability of precipitation for snow Sat night and Sunday...then slight 
chance probability of precipitation eastern 1/3 Sunday night as storm departs. While there is 
the potential for significant snows...especially across eastern 
portions of the area...there is too much uncertainty to issue any 
statements at this time...especially when the chance that we could 
get nothing is running about 30-40 percent in my opinion. The only 
place regardless of model chosen where p-type might be an issue is 
well offshore (20+ miles out so went with mix r/S there). 
Behind the storm high pressure builds in from the west to our S Monday 
and Tuesday then moves offshore Wednesday...keeping conditions dry and 
allowing for a gradually warming to the 40s by the middle of next 
week. Throughout the extended period used cooler men (mex ensemble 
mean) numbers for high/low temperatures. 
Thanks box/hpc/aly for excellent coordinate on extended. 
&& 
Aviation... 
VFR conditions at all terminals through 18z Thursday. Lead short wave 
moving through the middle Atlantic this afternoon has generated a 
widespread middle level cumulus field and even a few snow flurries...although 
most of the activity is remaining virga due to dry low levels. In 
any case...expect ceilings/visibilities to remain well above VFR mins through 
the period. A series of additional weak shortwaves will keep scattered-broken 
middle level clouds around the area...but do not expect any significant 
precipitation for tonight or Thursday. 
&& 
Marine... 
winds and seas will remain below Small Craft Advisory criteria through 
Thursday night on a light westerly flow. Seas will increase to 
just below Small Craft Advisory levels on ocean waters late Thursday afternoon as 
the waters will be sandwiched between high pressure to the south 
and low pressure to the north. Seas will continue to be near 
marginal Small Craft Advisory levels through Friday night. A coastal storm is 
expected to develop Saturday south of the region and track 
northeast through Sunday. Latest wna guidance is showing 18 feet 
waves for the ocean waters...have cut those numbers back to 8 to 
12 feet. In addition...gale force winds may be possible over the 
weekend. 
&& 
Hydrology... 
no significant precipitation expected through Saturday. There is the 
potential for significant liquid equivalent to fall Sat night into 
sun (however this should be in the form of snow - if precipitation 
falls - and have minimal hydrologic impact)...but given the 
uncertainty will just to continue to monitor for now. 
A Flood Warning continues for low lying sections along the lower 
Connecticut River...including Cromwell...Middletown and Portland. 
The flooding is expected to be minor...and the river should fall 
below flood stage at Middletown by 7 PM this evening. 
&& 
Okx watches/warnings/advisories... 
CT...none. 
New Jersey...none. 
New York...none. 
Marine...none. 
&& 
$$ 
Short/long term...pfm 
aviation...cj 
marien...British Columbia