Extremely Interesting Area of Low Pressure north of Libya

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Extremely Interesting Area of Low Pressure north of Libya

#1 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:33 am

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IT LOOKS PURELY EXTRATROPICAL, BUT STILL, IT LOOKS VERY INTERESTING IN THE VAST MEDITERRANIAN SEA.
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#2 Postby P.K. » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:40 am

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#3 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:43 am

THANKS P.K, JUST BEAUTIFUL!
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#4 Postby P.K. » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:48 am

I've added another image to that post since you replied. If you still want a higher res image here is the 250m TERRA MODIS image from 9:55am GMT. http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/2006032/crefl1_143.A2006032095001-2006032095500.250m.jpg
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#5 Postby senorpepr » Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:06 pm

I've been following that system for a while now. It's the parent low of an occluded frontal boundary. This front is expected to bring a bit of rainshowers and thinderstorms to parts of SW Asia, along with some duststorms with the increased winds associated with it.
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#6 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:06 pm

hmm...
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#7 Postby P.K. » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:25 pm

senorpepr wrote:I've been following that system for a while now. It's the parent low of an occluded frontal boundary. This front is expected to bring a bit of rainshowers and thinderstorms to parts of SW Asia, along with some duststorms with the increased winds associated with it.


You can see it nicely on these links. http://www.met.rdg.ac.uk/Data/CurrentWeather/new/PV315K.gif, http://www.met.rdg.ac.uk/Data/CurrentWeather/new/thetaPV2.gif.

If you can't view the animations above (It may only be availible to me internally) tell me and I'll try to copy part of it.
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#8 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:02 pm

no clue what im lookin at
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#9 Postby Coredesat » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:15 pm

You're looking at an interesting-looking extratropical low in the southern Mediterranean Sea. It looked a lot like Delta and Epsilon did in their formative stages.

Right now, it appears to be dying away. There's a lot less convection now than there was earlier.

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#10 Postby TheEuropean » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:24 pm

It seems to be over, but this is the same region, where in January 1995 a fully developed system went into northern africa. It looked like an hurricane with an excellent eye over days.
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#11 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:30 pm

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THIS IS THE JANUARY STORM THAT DEVELOPED IN 1995. MANY THINGS CAN BE SAID ABOUT IT, BUT IN MY OPINION, IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARILY INTERESTING HURRICANE!
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#12 Postby Hurricanehink » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:44 pm

Cool!
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#13 Postby Javlin » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:21 pm

Looks neat for sure.I would say extratropical just by the lack of any real banding in up close to the center,if that is a correct assumption.Lets hope this is the correlation to 95 we get in anyway.
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#14 Postby TheEuropean » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:43 pm

Javlin wrote:Looks neat for sure.I would say extratropical just by the lack of any real banding in up close to the center,if that is a correct assumption.Lets hope this is the correlation to 95 we get in anyway.


I would say at least subtropical: There was an eye in the center of the ring of convection, there was a strong vertical temperature gradient and there was no frontal zone near the system. It became a relative warm core system - all in all it was subtropical or even tropical, but over water with about 16°C.
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#15 Postby Javlin » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:47 pm

TheEuropean wrote:
Javlin wrote:Looks neat for sure.I would say extratropical just by the lack of any real banding in up close to the center,if that is a correct assumption.Lets hope this is the correlation to 95 we get in anyway.


I would say at least subtropical: There was an eye in the center of the ring of convection, there was a strong vertical temperature gradient and there was no frontal zone near the system. It became a relative warm core system - all in all it was subtropical or even tropical, but over water with about 16°C.


Thanks for the clarification Euro some days I like being a sponge that's why am hera to learn.
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#16 Postby Epsilon_Fan » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:17 am

Where did that storm make landfall and were there any windspeeds measured or pressures? It sure looks like there was a hurricane in the Med in 1995!
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#17 Postby senorpepr » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:26 am

I'm going to disagree with TheEuropean. While there was a little bit of convection near the low, the air temperatures between 925-700mb was hardly anything similar to a subtropical cyclone much less a tropical cyclone--very little in terms of warm-core features. Furthermore, it is still connected to an occluded front.
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#18 Postby TheEuropean » Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:51 am

senorpepr wrote:I'm going to disagree with TheEuropean. While there was a little bit of convection near the low, the air temperatures between 925-700mb was hardly anything similar to a subtropical cyclone much less a tropical cyclone--very little in terms of warm-core features. Furthermore, it is still connected to an occluded front.


The occluded front was gone, the system formed without a front in cold air at upper levels. On Jan. 16th all cold air clouds around the system were gone and it was totaly seperated from the cold front to the southeast. May be it was something between a polar low and a hurricane, but it was definitly not a normal extratropical low.

It made landfall in Libya, I have no surface data from there.
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#19 Postby P.K. » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:04 am

I think you are talking about different events there. :lol: The current low was never anything other than baroclinic, although when I looked at one of the GFS runs yesterday it had it as a shallow warm cored system. None of the other models were showing this.
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#20 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:16 pm

very strange
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