"WTH" is going ON?

[azsnowman]

If this isn't a climate change I don't what IS??

Let's see.......Az is having the first snowless winter on record (winter is over for all intents and purposes), a tropical storm in the Atlantic, wildfires in Texas and Oklahoma, record flooding and snowpack in California, WTH is going on here? I know 99.9% of the people are going to say it's just a cycle we're going through, personally, I'm sticking with Global Warming and a severe, unprecidented climate change!

Dennis

[MiamiensisWx]

Central and southern Florida is also having warmer and wetter winters recently. I have noticed this. Cold fronts are stalling over us and are not making it through the entire state as previously. Temperatures are unusually warm for this time of year, and rainfall is more than usual.

[Aslkahuna]

One year a climate change does not make.

Steve

[azsnowman]

One year a climate change does not make.

Steve

But ya gotta admit Steve, the weather here in Az has been VERY weird for the past 4 years now......nothing is NORMAL!!

Dennis

[wxcrazytwo]

Dennis, no one really knows what is going on with the weather. The most experienced meteoroligists will say it is due to climate change, but climate change is not something those folks understand. However, native people and people who have seen changes coming can tell you it is climate change. There are people who say it is a normal cycle variation, but no one can say that the sun was acting normal over the past few years either. The sun drives our weather, as well as other environemental fundamentals, but you mess one of the up, you will have change. JMO..

[W13]

The weather the entire world is experiencing as a whole right now is, you guessed it, abnormal. And this goes for almost everywhere!

For example, look at Europe. They are having the hardest and earliest Winter that they have had in recent memory. The reason: decreased selenity in the Gulf Stream.

I have read many books predicting much of what is happening today. It could lead to an Ice Age, down the road, or it may be just a cycle, who knows. All I know is that the world's weather is getting odder by the minute. Stronger storms, more drought in some areas, etc. It just doesn't make much since.

[Aslkahuna]

Actually, it makes a lot of sense since there is really no such thing as normal weather. In actuality, to to further with my earlier post, a single year is no true indicator of climate in either direction. However a long protracted series of such years could be. One would expect harsher storms and greater extremes in a GW situation as the added energy into the atmosphere would see to that. However, it should also be pointed out that Drought cycles in the Western US have been occurring at about 20 year intervals and with greater or lesser levels of severity than we are seeing now since very much before the arrival of Europeans on this Continent so one can't use the drought in the West as being indicative of anything.

Steve

[Extremeweatherguy]

The weather the entire world is experiencing as a whole right now is, you guessed it, abnormal. And this goes for almost everywhere!

For example, look at Europe. They are having the hardest and earliest Winter that they have had in recent memory. The reason: decreased selenity in the Gulf Stream.

I have read many books predicting much of what is happening today. It could lead to an Ice Age, down the road, or it may be just a cycle, who knows. All I know is that the world's weather is getting odder by the minute. Stronger storms, more drought in some areas, etc. It just doesn't make much since.

Yeah I have read many books/articles on the fact that the decreasing selenity of the gulf stream could lead to much colder winters in the Eastern U.S. and Europe. Things could get interesting over the next many decades; just think 30 years ago they were yelling "Ice age!" and now they are yelling "global warming!". Truthfully I think we will have to wait and see. The computer models they use to predict the effects of global warming are looking out hundreds of years in the future; so why would they think these models are right when the GFS and many other models can not even be right a few days out? If these predictions for a 100 years out are anything like the GFS predictions for 15 days out...then we should expect the opposite to happen (lol). Also, many "offical" temperature readings are taken in places where there has been tons of development over the last many years. What used to be a small landing strip is now a concrete slabbed International airport. No wonder the temperarture readings are warmer in those areas. More concrete and asphalt leads to an urban heat island effect, thus making it warmer in those areas. The funny thing is that some of the completly rural, un-developed areas have seen a decrease in temperature over the last 100 years. How do they explain that? The future of the climate is a very interesting subject, and the fact is that we have not been around long enough to have a good idea of what WILL happen. All we can really do is take a good guess and hope we are right.

[wxcrazytwo]

Actually, it makes a lot of sense since there is really no such thing as normal weather. In actuality, to to further with my earlier post, a single year is no true indicator of climate in either direction. However a long protracted series of such years could be. One would expect harsher storms and greater extremes in a GW situation as the added energy into the atmosphere would see to that. However, it should also be pointed out that Drought cycles in the Western US have been occurring at about 20 year intervals and with greater or lesser levels of severity than we are seeing now since very much before the arrival of Europeans on this Continent so one can't use the drought in the West as being indicative of anything.

Steve

I agree Aslkahuna, one year does not make it an indicator, but you have to admit things are getting strange everywhere.

[W13]

The weather the entire world is experiencing as a whole right now is, you guessed it, abnormal. And this goes for almost everywhere!

For example, look at Europe. They are having the hardest and earliest Winter that they have had in recent memory. The reason: decreased selenity in the Gulf Stream.

I have read many books predicting much of what is happening today. It could lead to an Ice Age, down the road, or it may be just a cycle, who knows. All I know is that the world's weather is getting odder by the minute. Stronger storms, more drought in some areas, etc. It just doesn't make much since.

Yeah I have read many books/articles on the fact that the decreasing selenity of the gulf stream could lead to much colder winters in the Eastern U.S. and Europe. Things could get interesting over the next many decades; just think 30 years ago they were yelling "Ice age!" and now they are yelling "global warming!". Truthfully I think we will have to wait and see. The computer models they use to predict the effects of global warming are looking out hundreds of years in the future; so why would they think these models are right when the GFS and many other models can not even be right a few days out? If these predictions for a 100 years out are anything like the GFS predictions for 15 days out...then we should expect the opposite to happen (lol). Also, many "offical" temperature readings are taken in places where there has been tons of development over the last many years. What used to be a small landing strip is now a concrete slabbed International airport. No wonder the temperarture readings are warmer in those areas. More concrete and asphalt leads to an urban heat island effect, thus making it warmer in those areas. The funny thing is that some of the completly rural, un-developed areas have seen a decrease in temperature over the last 100 years. How do they explain that? The future of the climate is a very interesting subject, and the fact is that we have not been around long enough to have a good idea of what WILL happen. All we can really do is take a good guess and hope we are right.

Exactly. And I have recently heard that some places in California away from all the development, etc. basically the rural areas, are actually cooling down.