Solar shield Idea to modify hurricanes or tornado's

[cyclonekiller]

Didn't we discuss about this yesterday at great lengh going back anf forth and in circules? And now you make another thread about the same alleged thing? You can expect more antitunnel reaction.

I understand that but something has to done to counter all these greenhouse gasses we are emitting to our atmosphere. If we just sit on our hands it will just get worse and who knows all these things they say are bad about my ideas and what will happen is already happening.

And what is "already happening"? Not global warming, we asked you to prove that last night, and you couldn't.

Perhaps this past hurricane season is the proof.Can you prove it isn't.

Let's not get started on a global warming debate, as that is off topic. Multidecadal cycles are the reason for this season, and we'll leave it at that. Anyway, since this is your idea, you will need to convince people about all aspects of it, and apparently global warming is one of them (I must assume so since you really didn't answer my question).

I don't think it is off topic because it is the topic that made me think of ways to counter it. It is out there otherwise we would never of heard of it.

6 years ago I told HRD that in twenty years we will have more frequent storms so powerfull because of warming SSTs that no one would believe it. Wait another 15 years when a billion more people own cars and get electricity. You think it is bad now. Just wait. Boy was I wrong it happened first with Mitch then Wilma. Will next years record storm hit Miami? Who knows but one day soon it will happen. You have been warned and to do nothing is negligence, borderline murder with malice and forethought.

Ummm, Mitch was more than 6 years ago, and therefore happened before your communications. Also, 6+15 =21, not 20.

And it's off topic in this thread because this is a thread about a solar shield stopping tropcial creations, not about whether global warming is occuring. If you want to discuss that as well, start a new thread. If you do it here, the mods will just lock it up.

IT WAS IN 99 OR 2000

[Air Force Met]

Man you can't do everything at once like this guy wants it is an idea and you have to build on it. I tell you what AFM you do it.Here is is another hint yes it can be turned on or off like a light switch by stowing it away on the verticle towards the sunlight.

No...you want to come in here saying "It'll work...It'll work" and then you have no data to back it up.

And now you want to give hints? You know...if you got hints...you got more...but I doubt you do...and so does everyone else.

Here's what you do. Take a roll of tin foil. Fashion it into a hat shaped device. Place upon head. I think it will help your symptoms tremendously.

[WindRunner]

Didn't we discuss about this yesterday at great lengh going back anf forth and in circules? And now you make another thread about the same alleged thing? You can expect more antitunnel reaction.

I understand that but something has to done to counter all these greenhouse gasses we are emitting to our atmosphere. If we just sit on our hands it will just get worse and who knows all these things they say are bad about my ideas and what will happen is already happening.

And what is "already happening"? Not global warming, we asked you to prove that last night, and you couldn't.

Perhaps this past hurricane season is the proof.Can you prove it isn't.

Let's not get started on a global warming debate, as that is off topic. Multidecadal cycles are the reason for this season, and we'll leave it at that. Anyway, since this is your idea, you will need to convince people about all aspects of it, and apparently global warming is one of them (I must assume so since you really didn't answer my question).

I don't think it is off topic because it is the topic that made me think of ways to counter it. It is out there otherwise we would never of heard of it.

6 years ago I told HRD that in twenty years we will have more frequent storms so powerfull because of warming SSTs that no one would believe it. Wait another 15 years when a billion more people own cars and get electricity. You think it is bad now. Just wait. Boy was I wrong it happened first with Mitch then Wilma. Will next years record storm hit Miami? Who knows but one day soon it will happen. You have been warned and to do nothing is negligence, borderline murder with malice and forethought.

Ummm, Mitch was more than 6 years ago, and therefore happened before your communications. Also, 6+15 =21, not 20.

And it's off topic in this thread because this is a thread about a solar shield stopping tropcial creations, not about whether global warming is occuring. If you want to discuss that as well, start a new thread. If you do it here, the mods will just lock it up.

IT WAS IN 99 OR 2000

Exactly, and Mitch was in 1998.

[Air Force Met]

Man you can't do everything at once like this guy wants it is an idea and you have to build on it. I tell you what AFM you do it.Here is is another hint yes it can be turned on or off like a light switch by stowing it away on the verticle towards the sunlight.

There is a saying about people like you where I come from. You're all hat and no cattle.

[WindRunner]

And since the year of Mitch is being debated by some, here is my supporting data: look at the year on this page.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1998mitch.html

[Air Force Met]

Here is is another hint yes it can be turned on or off like a light switch by stowing it away on the verticle towards the sunlight.

Oh...and Einstein...


How do you intend to COUNTER the solar sail effect you will have when this thing is deployed and reployed? After all...some of the latest ideas in deep space travel sugest a giant sail. This is a giant sail that will capture solar wind. When it is deployed perpendicular to the solar wind...how do you plan on keeping it in Geo orbit? That will be one MASSIVE fuel burn.

[Air Force Met]

And since the year of Mitch is being debated by some, here is my supporting data: look at the year on this page.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1998mitch.html

OH NO...supporting data.

[cyclonekiller]

Man you can't do everything at once like this guy wants it is an idea and you have to build on it. I tell you what AFM you do it.Here is is another hint yes it can be turned on or off like a light switch by stowing it away on the verticle towards the sunlight.

Yeah, umm, that doesn't work. A wall is vertical (which is what you would create by vertical stacking), but it still has a shadow the vast majority of the time. You know why? Because the sun isn't always directly above your target zone. By the way, what region would you want to cover with this shield?

Lets start with AFMs house. Perhaps, that would cool him off a little. Anyways, how about a section of the ocean off Africa where the cape verde stroms start out at.

[x-y-no]

Here is is another hint yes it can be turned on or off like a light switch by stowing it away on the verticle towards the sunlight.

Oh...and Einstein...


How do you intend to COUNTER the solar sail effect you will have when this thing is deployed and reployed? After all...some of the latest ideas in deep space travel sugest a giant sail. This is a giant sail that will capture solar wind. When it is deployed perpendicular to the solar wind...how do you plan on keeping it in Geo orbit? That will be one MASSIVE fuel burn.

Got knocked on my butt by a nasty cold for the last three days ... looks like I've been missing some excitiement around here ...

My immediate thought when I saw this thread is the problem you cited above. To the extent any such device provides net shading of the Earth, it's going to behave as a sail being pushed towards the Earth. There are ways to mitigate such an effect (if the device is distant enough) by deflecting the light so as to just barely miss the Earth, raher than reflecting it back towards the sun. But this make the engineering and maintenance several orders of magnitude more difficult, and in any case cannot completely eliminate the problem (which would have to be countered by periodic fuel burns).

[WindRunner]

Man you can't do everything at once like this guy wants it is an idea and you have to build on it. I tell you what AFM you do it.Here is is another hint yes it can be turned on or off like a light switch by stowing it away on the verticle towards the sunlight.

Yeah, umm, that doesn't work. A wall is vertical (which is what you would create by vertical stacking), but it still has a shadow the vast majority of the time. You know why? Because the sun isn't always directly above your target zone. By the way, what region would you want to cover with this shield?

Lets start with AFMs house. Perhaps, that would cool him off a little. Anyways, how about a section of the ocean off Africa where the cape verde stroms start out at.

OK, how big of a section? How many billions of square feet are we talking about here? Or, to make it simpler, thousands of square miles?

[WindRunner]

And since the year of Mitch is being debated by some, here is my supporting data: look at the year on this page.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1998mitch.html

OH NO...supporting data.

Yeah, I thought this thread could use some.

[Air Force Met]

Lets start with AFMs house. Perhaps, that would cool him off a little. Anyways, how about a section of the ocean off Africa where the cape verde stroms start out at.

Nope...because then you would show up with another idiotic idea.

SO...how many Mlux are you going to decrease the area off Africa and what is that going to do to the food chain which thrives on the microorganisms which thrive on 1.3 million mlux?

[cyclonekiller]

Here is is another hint yes it can be turned on or off like a light switch by stowing it away on the verticle towards the sunlight.

Oh...and Einstein...


How do you intend to COUNTER the solar sail effect you will have when this thing is deployed and reployed? After all...some of the latest ideas in deep space travel sugest a giant sail. This is a giant sail that will capture solar wind. When it is deployed perpendicular to the solar wind...how do you plan on keeping it in Geo orbit? That will be one MASSIVE fuel burn.

[CajunMama]

I'm locking this thread. This was hashed out last night and we're not going through it again and anymore started on it will be locked also. Have a good day!