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#1 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:07 pm

Current Weather Conditions:
Aeroporto Da Madeira, Portugal


Noon (17) Nov 28 59 (15) 57 (14) 29.62 (1003) NE 695 light rain

3 AM (8) Nov 28 59 (15) 57 (14) 29.83 (1010) NE 231 light rain showers

11 PM (4) Nov 27 59 (15) 55 (13) 29.85 (1011) NE 1041

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/LPMA.html

There must be a major error occurring with the anemometer of the airport of Madeira, Portugal. It has reported winds just impossible to believe and impossible to find in planet Earth. Just one bing OOPS!!!
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#2 Postby senorpepr » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:16 pm

Hmmm... that is odd. Must be a NWS decoding issue. I pulled up the raw observations and see no problem.

LPMA 290100Z 02016G31KT 330V050 4000SW RA SCT016 BKN100 14/12 Q1005 RERA RS3617G29KT 050119G33KT 230315KT;
LPMA 290000Z 04018G34KT 020V080 9999 -RA SCT016 BKN100 15/14 Q1005 RS0316G29KT 050214G28KT 230316G33KT;
LPMA 282300Z 03008KT 360V060 9999 SCT018 BKN100 15/13 Q1003 RS0310KT 050109KT 230310KT;
LPMA 282200Z 06010KT 9999 -RA SCT016 BKN100 15/13 Q1003 RS0208KT 050208KT 230410KT;
LPMA 282100Z 03010KT 9999 SCT016 BKN100 16/13 Q1002 RS0213KT 050211KT 230310KT;
LPMA 282000Z 05015KT 9999 -RA SCT016 BKN100 16/14 Q1002 RS0313KT 050614KT 230713KT;
LPMA 281900Z VRB09KT 9999 -RA SCT016 BKN100 16/15 Q1002 RS0815KT 050906KT 230608KT;
LPMA 281800Z VRB06KT 9999 -RA SCT018 BKN100 15/14 Q1002 RS0809KT 050905KT 230607KT;
LPMA 281700Z VRB02KT 9999 -RA SCT016 BKN100 15/14 Q1003 RS0901KT 050301KT 232001KT;
LPMA 281600Z 26004KT 220V310 9999 RA SCT016 BKN100 15/14 Q1005 RS2505KT 052803KT 232504KT;
LPMA 281500Z 16004KT 120V260 7000 RA SCT015 BKN100 15/14 Q1005 RS0702KT 051501KT 232601KT;
LPMA 281400Z VRB05KT 9000 RA SCT016 BKN100 15/14 Q1005 RS1210KT 051004KT 232501KT;
LPMA 281300Z 13006KT 100V160 9999 RA BKN016 BKN100 16/14 Q1007 RS1310KT 051204KT 233601KT;
LPMA 281200Z VRB05KT 9999 -RA FEW013 BKN016 BKN100 16/14 Q1008 RERA RS2402KT 052802KT 232707KT;
LPMA 281100Z 28006KT 260V330 9999 RA FEW010 BKN015 BKN070 16/14 Q1009 RS2603KT 052704KT 232706KT;
LPMA 281000Z 27006KT 9999 -RA FEW010 BKN015 BKN070 15/14 Q1010 RS2204KT 052602KT 232606KT;
LPMA 280900Z VRB01KT 9000 -RA BKN015 BKN070 15/14 Q1010 RS2101KT 052702KT 232802KT;
LPMA 280800Z 01003KT 9999 -SHRA BKN016 FEW020CB 15/13 Q1010 RS0000KT 050103KT 230103KT;
LPMA 280700Z VRB02KT 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 15/13 Q1010 RS3303KT 053502KT 230202KT;
LPMA 280600Z VRB02KT 9000 -SHRA BKN018 FEW020CB 14/13 Q1011 RS3303KT 050402KT 233002KT;
LPMA 280500Z 06005KT 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 15/13 Q1011 RS2503KT 050603KT 230506KT;
LPMA 280400Z VRB03KT 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 14/13 Q1011 RS2804KT 052904KT 233404KT;
LPMA 280300Z VRB01KT 9999 -SHRA BKN018 FEW020CB 15/12 Q1012 RS3004KT 052903KT 233402KT;
LPMA 280200Z 01003KT 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 15/11 Q1013 RS0202KT 050102KT 230103KT;
LPMA 280100Z VRB03KT 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 15/11 Q1014 RS2902KT 050101KT 230104KT;
LPMA 280000Z VRB02KT 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 15/11 Q1014 RS3106KT 053503KT 233103KT;
LPMA 272300Z 36004KT 320V020 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 15/12 Q1014 RS3403KT 050103KT 233603KT;
LPMA 272200Z 04005KT 350V070 9999 BKN018 FEW020CB 15/12 Q1015 RS2701KT 050205KT 230304KT;
LPMA 272100Z 34004KT 310V010 9999 BKN018 15/12 Q1015 RS3104KT 053303KT 233504KT;
LPMA 272000Z VRB02KT 9999 BKN018 15/12 Q1015 RS0602KT 050902KT 230201KT;
LPMA 271900Z 35004KT 320V020 9999 BKN018 16/11 Q1014 RS3404KT 053503KT 233505KT;
LPMA 271800Z VRB03KT 9999 BKN018 16/11 Q1014 RS0403KT 050202KT 230203KT;
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#3 Postby conestogo_flood » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:49 pm

Speaking of 598 mph wind gusts reported to the NWS yesterday in Scott County, Missouri...

(It's under the wind reports from yesterday)
0805 598 MORLEY SCOTT MO 3704 8961 (PAH)

Gee, the wind is really changing fast! No one is safe on any continent.

Time,Speed,Location,County,State,Lat,Lon,Comments
2034,70,EMPORIA,LYON,KS,38.4,-96.18,(TOP)
2100,UNK,WICKES,POLK,AR,34.3,-94.34,TREES DOWN. (LZK)
2102,UNK,1 S HARTFORD,LYON,KS,38.29,-95.96,SEVERAL TREES DOWN JUST SOUTH OF HARTFORD...REPORTS OF TREES DOWN AND MINOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE THROUGHOUT REST OF LYON COUNTY. (TOP)
2110,UNK,LYNDON,OSAGE,KS,38.61,-95.68,ESTIMATED 60 MPH WINDS. ALSO SMALL HAIL COVERED THE GROUND. (TOP)
2110,60,BURLINGAME,OSAGE,KS,38.75,-95.83,LARGE TREE LIMBS REPORTED DOWNED BY STRONG THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS. (TOP)
2115,UNK,2 W DE QUEEN,SEVIER,AR,34.04,-94.38,TREES BLOWN DOWN ACROSS HIGHWAY 70 JUST WEST OF DEQUEEN (SHV)
2120,UNK,SCRANTON,OSAGE,KS,38.78,-95.74,BUSINESS SIGN BLOWN OVER ACROSS THE STREET FROM SPOTTERS HOUSE. (TOP)
2130,70,TOPEKA,SHAWNEE,KS,39.05,-95.68,SOME TREE DAMAGE REPORTED. (TOP)
2145,UNK,10 E WALTREAK,YELL,AR,34.98,-93.42,POWER POLES DOWN AND ROOF OFF OF CHICKEN HOUSE ON HIGHWAY 80. (LZK)
2150,UNK,BLUFFTON,YELL,AR,34.9,-93.6,BARN WITH CAR INSIDE BLOWN DOWN AND NUMEROUS TREES DOWN. (LZK)
2151,70,4 W LAWRENCE,DOUGLAS,KS,38.97,-95.31,STRONG WINDS AND HAIL COVERING THE GROUND. (TOP)
2157,70,PERRY,JEFFERSON,KS,39.08,-95.39,ALSO REPORTED HALF INCH HAIL COVERING THE GROUND. (TOP)
2200,UNK,DIERKS,HOWARD,AR,34.12,-94.02,TREES DOWN. (SHV)
2205,UNK,OSKALOOSA,JEFFERSON,KS,39.22,-95.31,TREE DOWN. (TOP)
2210,60,6 NNE HOLTON,JACKSON,KS,39.55,-95.69,(TOP)
2215,UNK,PORTERVILLE,BOURBON,KS,37.72,-95.07,TIN BLOWN OFF OF SHED. POSSIBLE TORNADO DAMAGE. STORM SURVEY MAY BE NEEDED ON MONDAY. (SGF)
2224,60,2 N CENTERVILLE KS,LINN,KS,38.25,-95.02,(EAX)
2230,UNK,KIRBY,PIKE,AR,34.25,-93.63,ROOF BLOWN OFF OF A CHICKEN HOUSE. (LZK)
2230,UNK,1 S POWHATTAN,BROWN,KS,39.75,-95.63,POWER LINES DOWNED BY WIND GUST. OTHER POWER LINES REPORTED DOWNED ACROSS SOUTHERN BROWN COUNTY. (TOP)
2242,UNK,WESTON,PLATTE,MO,39.41,-94.9,ROOFS OFF AND TREES DOWN (EAX)
2250,UNK,8 W NASHVILLE,HOWARD,AR,33.94,-93.99,200 FEET OF A TIN ROOF BLOWN OFF A CHICKEN HOUSE IN CENTER PT. (SHV)
2250,UNK,5 SW BEATRICE,GAGE,NE,40.22,-96.81,METAL POLE SHED DESTROYED. HORSE TRAILER TIPPED OVER. POWER LINES BLOWN DOWN. REPORTED ON A FARMSTEAD NEAR ELLIS NEBRASKA. (OAX)
2251,75,OLATHE,JOHNSON,KS,38.89,-94.81,MEASURED AT OLATHE NORTH HIGH SCHOOL. (EAX)
2300,63,FALLS CITY,RICHARDSON,NE,40.07,-95.6,WIND GUST AS MEASURED BY THE FALLS CITY ASOS. (OAX)
2305,UNK,4 NW NAPLES,MORRIS,TX,33.24,-94.73,BARN BLOWN OFF BLOCKS...POSSIBLE TORNADO. (SHV)
2310,UNK,2 NE FOREMAN,LITTLE RIVER,AR,33.74,-94.37,TREES DOWN ACROSS COUNTY ROAD 53. (SHV)
2310,UNK,5 N ROYAL,GARLAND,AR,34.59,-93.23,DOCKS DESTROYED AND BOATS OVERTURNED AT BRADY MOUNTAIN MARINA. ALSO...REPORT OF PENNY SIZED HAIL. (LZK)
2310,UNK,1 ENE FAUCETT,BUCHANAN,MO,39.61,-94.8,SIDING RIPPED OFF BUILDING (EAX)
2325,UNK,1 W PEARCY,GARLAND,AR,34.43,-93.3,TREES DOWN COVERING HIGHWAY 70 WEST. (LZK)
2330,UNK,MAUD,BOWIE,TX,33.33,-94.34,POWERLINES DOWN. (SHV)
2330,61,SENECA,NEWTON,MO,36.84,-94.61,61 MPH WIND SPEED MEASURED BY AWOS (SGF)
2332,75,1 S CLAYCOMO,CLAY,MO,39.19,-94.48,REPORT FROM WORLDS OF FUN. (EAX)
2345,UNK,WHITEHOUSE,SMITH,TX,32.23,-95.22,TREES DOWN FROM WHITE HOUSE TO CHAPEL HILL. (SHV)
2345,UNK,FORT SCOTT,BOURBON,KS,37.84,-94.71,68 MPH WIND SPEED MEASURED BY AWOS. (SGF)
2350,UNK,SPRINGDALE,WASHINGTON,AR,36.19,-94.13,TREES AND POWER LINES DOWN (TSA)
2350,80,EXCELSIOR SPRINGS,CLAY,MO,39.35,-94.23,WINDS ESTIMATED AT 75 TO 80 MPH. TREE DAMAGE ALSO REPORTED. (EAX)
2359,UNK,EXCELSIOR SPRINGS,CLAY,MO,39.35,-94.23,TREES DOWN. (EAX)
0005,UNK,PERRYVILLE,PERRY,AR,35.01,-92.8,STRUCTURE DAMAGE TO HOUSE...PERSON TRAPPED IN HOME...AND WAS RESCUED BY EMERGENCY PERSONNEL. (LZK)
0010,58,PINEVILLE,MCDONALD,MO,36.59,-94.38,58 MPH WIND SPEED MEASURED BY AWOS. (SGF)
0020,UNK,MOUNTAIN HOME,BAXTER,AR,36.34,-92.38,BUILDINGS DESTROYED ALONG HIGHWAY 5 IN MOUNTAIN HOME. (LZK)
0040,61,COLUMBUS,CHEROKEE,KS,37.17,-94.84,61 MPH WIND SPEED MEASURED BY AWOS. (SGF)
0045,UNK,BEE BRANCH,VAN BUREN,AR,35.45,-92.4,HOUSE DESTROYED ON HAPPY HOLLOW ROAD. (LZK)
0045,UNK,BAKERSFIELD,OZARK,MO,36.52,-92.14,BARN BLOWN DOWN JUST EAST OF BAKERSFIELD. POSSIBLE TORNADO DAMAGE. A NWS SURVEY WILL BE CONDUCTED TODAY. (SGF)
0053,UNK,CHERRY HILL,PERRY,AR,34.98,-92.87,STRUCTURE DAMAGE TO HOMES...AND TREES DOWN. HIGHWAY 60 IS BLOCKED. (LZK)
0100,UNK,LONGVIEW,GREGG,TX,32.52,-94.76,ROOF DAMAGE TO A HOUSE ON NORTH GILMER RD. (SHV)
0105,80,DEERFIELD,VERNON,MO,37.84,-94.51,DEERFIELD FIRE REPORTED 80 MPH WIND GUST. RELAYED BY VERNON COUNTY SHERIFF. (SGF)
0109,UNK,POTTERSVILLE,HOWELL,MO,36.7,-92.03,*** 2 INJ *** 4 MOBILE HOMES BLOWN OFF FOUNDATION. ONE MOBILE HOME TOTALLY DESTROYED. OUTBUILDINGS DESTROYED. DEBRIS IN TREES AND TREES UPROOTED. DAMAGE WAS REPORTED IN (SGF)
0112,UNK,5 S CAULFIELD,HOWELL,MO,36.55,-92.12,REPORT OF FRONT PORCH AND BARN DESTROYED NEAR YY HIGHWAY. RELAYED BY WEST PLAINS SHERIFF OFFICE. POSSIBLE TORNADO DAMAGE. STORM SURVEY MAY BE NEEDED. (SGF)
0130,UNK,PRESCOTT,NEVADA,AR,33.8,-93.39,TREE DOWN ON KALE RD. (SHV)
0210,UNK,PLEASANT GROVE,STONE,AR,35.82,-91.92,TREES AND POWER LINES DOWN ON HIGHWAY 14 FROM ST. JAMES TO PLEASANT GROVE AND MARCELLA. (LZK)
0226,UNK,1 W MORGAN,PULASKI,AR,34.88,-92.38,POWER LINES DOWN. (LZK)
0235,UNK,SHREVEPORT,CADDO,LA,32.47,-93.8,TREES DOWN AROUND THE CENTENARY AREA...INCLUDING TREES ON HOME AND CARS. MINOR ROOF DAMAGE AT CENTENARY COLLEGE. (SHV)
0245,UNK,BOSSIER CITY,BOSSIER,LA,32.52,-93.66,CAR AND APARTMENT WINDOWS BLOWN OUT AT THE CORDOVA APARTMENTS IN THE 900 BLOCK OF WESTGATE LANE. TREES AND POWER LINES BLOWN DOWN THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL. FIRST REP (SHV)
0255,UNK,PANGBURN,WHITE,AR,35.43,-91.84,HOUSE TRAILER OVERTURNED ON OLD CLAY ROAD. POWER LINES ALSO DOWN. (LZK)
0255,UNK,4 NE CENTERVILLE,REYNOLDS,MO,37.48,-90.91,LARGE TREE LIMBS DOWN ON ROUTE 21 BETWEEN CENTERVILLE AND LESTERVILLE. (LSX)
0320,UNK,4 W HOMER,CLAIBORNE,LA,32.79,-93.13,TREE BLOWN DOWN ON HIGHWAY 2 BETWEEN HOMER AND THE WEBSTER PARISH LINE (SHV)
0330,UNK,1 E GATEWOOD,RIPLEY,MO,36.56,-91.06,SEVERAL POWERLINES DOWN AND 1 TREE DOWN ON TRUCK (PAH)
0435,UNK,BRIAR,RIPLEY,MO,36.64,-90.96,SEVERAL TREES DOWN ON HWY. 160 NEAR BRIAR. (PAH)
0435,UNK,3 W BRIAR,RIPLEY,MO,36.64,-91.02,*** 1 FATAL *** 1 HOUSE DESTROYED. (PAH)
0436,UNK,DE SOTO,JEFFERSON,MO,38.14,-90.56,LARGE TREE LIMBS DOWN. (LSX)
0510,UNK,WEBSTER GROVES,ST. LOUIS,MO,38.59,-90.35,A TREE FELL ON A CAR - REPORTED BY KTVI FOX2 NEWS (LSX)
0525,UNK,MAPLEWOOD,ST. LOUIS,MO,38.61,-90.32,SEMI TRUCK BLOWN OVER IN THE WALMART PARKING LOT IN THE HANLEY INDUSTRIAL PARK - REPORTED BY KTVI FOX2 NEWS (LSX)
0645,UNK,4 SW SPRINGFIELD,SANGAMON,IL,39.74,-89.7,POWER POLES SNAPPED AND POWER POLES DOWN AT I-72 AND CHATHAM RD. SWOP REPORT. (ILX)
0725,UNK,PIONEER,WEST CARROLL,LA,32.74,-91.44,POSSIBLE TORNADO...ROOF BLOWN OFF OF A BARN AND A COTTON STORAGE TRAILER DESTROYED...REPORTED BY PIONEER CITY HALL (JAN)
0800,UNK,3 ENE MAYERSVILLE,ISSAQUENA,MS,32.91,-91,GRACE POST OFFICE REPORTED THAT ROOF WAS TAKEN OFF OF A MOBILE HOME ON HWY 1 3 S OF GRACE (JAN)
0801,UNK,DEXTER,STODDARD,MO,36.79,-89.96,TREES DOWN ALONG COUNTY HIGHWAY 514. (PAH)
0805,598,MORLEY,SCOTT,MO,37.04,-89.61,(PAH)
0815,UNK,HOLLANDALE,WASHINGTON,MS,33.17,-90.85,TREES BLOWN DOWN (JAN)
0820,UNK,TALLULAH,MADISON,LA,32.41,-91.19,POWERLINES BLOWN DOWN (JAN)
0900,UNK,DE SOTO,JACKSON,IL,37.82,-89.23,TREES DOWN. (PAH)
0915,UNK,10 S VICKSBURG,WARREN,MS,32.18,-90.87,FEW TREES AND POWERLINES DOWN (JAN)
1127,UNK,CHARLESTON,COLES,IL,39.48,-88.18,3 FOOT DIAMETER TREE FELL ON A HOUSE. (ILX)
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Re: Something must be wrong!

#4 Postby george_r_1961 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:00 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Current Weather Conditions:
Aeroporto Da Madeira, Portugal


Noon (17) Nov 28 59 (15) 57 (14) 29.62 (1003) NE 695 light rain

3 AM (8) Nov 28 59 (15) 57 (14) 29.83 (1010) NE 231 light rain showers

11 PM (4) Nov 27 59 (15) 55 (13) 29.85 (1011) NE 1041

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/LPMA.html

There must be a major error occurring with the anemometer of the airport of Madeira, Portugal. It has reported winds just impossible to believe and impossible to find in planet Earth. Just one bing OOPS!!!


Maybe it was a super downburst or something :lol:
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#5 Postby mike815 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:11 pm

super down burst good one i dont think so lol
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#6 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:12 pm

it was the Cat 7's twin brother...lol
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#7 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:18 pm

F7 TORNADO.... :eek: NOT.... :D
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#8 Postby mike815 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:24 pm

Yeah i think that would be higher than a 7. :eek:
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#9 Postby senorpepr » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:29 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:F7 TORNADO.... :eek: NOT.... :D


I know you were kidding with the F7 remark, but the true Fujita Scale does go to F12. F12, of course, is above the speed of sound.

Therefore, since Fujita's scale said F12 was anything above Mach 1, the wind report of 1041 mph would be classified as F12 strength. However, if you use the formula they used [V=14.1*((F+2)^1.5)] and made the scale limitless (F13, F14, F15, etc), then it would actually be of F16 strength.

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#10 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:30 pm

You guys are giving the CBS people ideas for their next stupid movie. :lol:
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#11 Postby senorpepr » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:33 pm

HURAKAN wrote:You guys are giving the CBS people ideas for their next stupid movie. :lol:


Well, we know they don't visit Storm2k. Otherwise they would have picked up some smarts and their other stupid movies would have made some meteorological sense.
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#12 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:41 pm

senorpepr wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:You guys are giving the CBS people ideas for their next stupid movie. :lol:


Well, we know they don't visit Storm2k. Otherwise they would have picked up some smarts and their other stupid movies would have made some meteorological sense.


:lol:
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#13 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:41 pm

senorpepr wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:F7 TORNADO.... :eek: NOT.... :D


I know you were kidding with the F7 remark, but the true Fujita Scale does go to F12. F12, of course, is above the speed of sound.

Therefore, since Fujita's scale said F12 was anything above Mach 1, the wind report of 1041 mph would be classified as F12 strength. However, if you use the formula they used [V=14.1*((F+2)^1.5)] and made the scale limitless (F13, F14, F15, etc), then it would actually be of F16 strength.

:wink:


F16 WHOA!!!!
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#14 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:46 pm

senorpepr wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:You guys are giving the CBS people ideas for their next stupid movie. :lol:


Well, we know they don't visit Storm2k. Otherwise they would have picked up some smarts and their other stupid movies would have made some meteorological sense.


LOL, THAT'S TRUE!!!!
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#15 Postby P.K. » Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:40 am

senorpepr wrote:Hmmm... that is odd. Must be a NWS decoding issue. I pulled up the raw observations and see no problem.


Which is why it is always better to look at the METARS. There was a case while ago in Scotland where they made a mistake in one and put -90C instead of OC which was amusing.

senorpepr wrote:I know you were kidding with the F7 remark, but the true Fujita Scale does go to F12. F12, of course, is above the speed of sound.

Therefore, since Fujita's scale said F12 was anything above Mach 1, the wind report of 1041 mph would be classified as F12 strength. However, if you use the formula they used [V=14.1*((F+2)^1.5)] and made the scale limitless (F13, F14, F15, etc), then it would actually be of F16 strength.


Yes but it doesn't follow the Beaufort scale exactly like the T-scale does due to F1 being set at a miumum hurricane speed rather than an average one.:wink: (Which means it ends up being half a category out of scale)

Depends on the temperature though, he set F12 at a temperature of 270K. :lol:
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#16 Postby Terrell » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:38 am

Sounds like some people's instruments are malfunctioning, or they're reading them wrong, or mother nature is angrier than we realized :D
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#17 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:44 pm

There country could of set off a nuke on them selfs? :cry:
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#18 Postby mike815 » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:08 pm

Mother nature might be very much more angrier than we realized. shes just flexing her muscles.
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#19 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:07 pm

Maybe Delta was "the fast and the furious." :lol:
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#20 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:12 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Maybe Delta was "the fast and the furious." :lol:
No, that was Katrina, Delta was 2 Fast and Furious!!! :lol:
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