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#101 Postby krysof » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:26 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:at this rate this could go from Invest right to Hurricane! lol


It has happened before...and when you think about it it is actually quite plausible. Some extratropical lows have had pressures and winds of Cat 3 strength, so theoritically, if they had turned into warm-core systems, they would've gone from Invest to Cat 3 right away.


Like the 1993 superstorm
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#102 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:29 pm

krysof wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:at this rate this could go from Invest right to Hurricane! lol


It has happened before...and when you think about it it is actually quite plausible. Some extratropical lows have had pressures and winds of Cat 3 strength, so theoritically, if they had turned into warm-core systems, they would've gone from Invest to Cat 3 right away.


Like the 1993 superstorm


Also, Hurricane Noel in 2001 is another example.
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#103 Postby krysof » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:33 pm

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krysof wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:at this rate this could go from Invest right to Hurricane! lol


It has happened before...and when you think about it it is actually quite plausible. Some extratropical lows have had pressures and winds of Cat 3 strength, so theoritically, if they had turned into warm-core systems, they would've gone from Invest to Cat 3 right away.


Like the 1993 superstorm


Also, Hurricane Noel in 2001 is another example.



Where can I find info about Noel?
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#104 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:35 pm

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#105 Postby Scorpion » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:36 pm

Whoa almost looks like an eyetype feature. I cannot believe the NHC hasnt upgraded this. It could be a hurricane right now.
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#106 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:38 pm

krysof wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
krysof wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:at this rate this could go from Invest right to Hurricane! lol


It has happened before...and when you think about it it is actually quite plausible. Some extratropical lows have had pressures and winds of Cat 3 strength, so theoritically, if they had turned into warm-core systems, they would've gone from Invest to Cat 3 right away.


Like the 1993 superstorm


Also, Hurricane Noel in 2001 is another example.


Where can I find info about Noel?


FROM THE NHC:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2001noel.html

In the best-track analysis they initiate Noel as a subtropical storm but the first advisory was issued when Noel became a hurricane.
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#107 Postby krysof » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:39 pm

Scorpion wrote:Whoa almost looks like an eyetype feature. I cannot believe the NHC hasnt upgraded this. It could be a hurricane right now.


True but many powerful extratropical storms look like this.
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#108 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:41 pm

Its a aging extratropical cyclone...They have comma clouds...In as they reach there peak they grow eye like futures with rings of convection. Which look like hurricanes. No T numbers at all so no upgrade.
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#109 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:41 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
krysof wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
krysof wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:at this rate this could go from Invest right to Hurricane! lol


It has happened before...and when you think about it it is actually quite plausible. Some extratropical lows have had pressures and winds of Cat 3 strength, so theoritically, if they had turned into warm-core systems, they would've gone from Invest to Cat 3 right away.


Like the 1993 superstorm


Also, Hurricane Noel in 2001 is another example.


Where can I find info about Noel?


FROM THE NHC:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2001noel.html

In the best-track analysis they initiate Noel as a subtropical storm but the first advisory was issued when Noel became a hurricane.


Yeah, most times when it's an extratropical to tropical transition they wait until all signs say tropical to upgrade it, then in the post-storm analysis they say it was a STS until the first advisory was issued. Otto was like that too, and most certainly Vince and if this one develops that will be the case.
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#110 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:41 pm

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Here you can appreciate how a huge band of convection has been developing from the center to the north and east of the circulation, this could wrap around the storm and by tomorrow have a complete eye. Interesting!!
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#111 Postby quandary » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:05 pm

I think it'll be upgraded if convection wraps around completely. But comeon, Greek letters aren't really names, so even if this isn't really tropical, we could just call it Sub-tropical Storm Delta! But I guess NHC doesn't really want to be working so much anymore; they deserve a break. :D
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#112 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:08 pm

quandary wrote:I think it'll be upgraded if convection wraps around completely. But comeon, Greek letters aren't really names, so even if this isn't really tropical, we could just call it Sub-tropical Storm Delta! But I guess NHC doesn't really want to be working so much anymore; they deserve a break. :D


lol they will get a break when and if this season ever finishes! lol but right now theres a system developing that IMO should be up graded! lol but any ways its not like I am a pro.! lol
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#113 Postby krysof » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:12 pm

JamesFromMaine2 wrote:
quandary wrote:I think it'll be upgraded if convection wraps around completely. But comeon, Greek letters aren't really names, so even if this isn't really tropical, we could just call it Sub-tropical Storm Delta! But I guess NHC doesn't really want to be working so much anymore; they deserve a break. :D


lol they will get a break when and if this season ever finishes! lol but right now theres a system developing that IMO should be up graded! lol but any ways its not like I am a pro.! lol


They'll get plenty of breaks. Not like other people who work almost every single day for the whole year. They get sometimes over 6 months of break.
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#114 Postby superfly » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:17 pm

krysof wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:
quandary wrote:I think it'll be upgraded if convection wraps around completely. But comeon, Greek letters aren't really names, so even if this isn't really tropical, we could just call it Sub-tropical Storm Delta! But I guess NHC doesn't really want to be working so much anymore; they deserve a break. :D


lol they will get a break when and if this season ever finishes! lol but right now theres a system developing that IMO should be up graded! lol but any ways its not like I am a pro.! lol


They'll get plenty of breaks. Not like other people who work almost every single day for the whole year. They get sometimes over 6 months of break.


They get other jobs you know. It's not like they're just sitting on their ass for 6 months.
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#115 Postby Forecaster Colby » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:36 pm

krysof wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:
quandary wrote:I think it'll be upgraded if convection wraps around completely. But comeon, Greek letters aren't really names, so even if this isn't really tropical, we could just call it Sub-tropical Storm Delta! But I guess NHC doesn't really want to be working so much anymore; they deserve a break. :D


lol they will get a break when and if this season ever finishes! lol but right now theres a system developing that IMO should be up graded! lol but any ways its not like I am a pro.! lol


They'll get plenty of breaks. Not like other people who work almost every single day for the whole year. They get sometimes over 6 months of break.


Not really. When they get those six months, they analyze the data from the previous year.
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#116 Postby Forecaster Colby » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:37 pm

I am with you, I am stunned the NHC isn't taking this subtropical yet.

O.O The navy site has it at 988mb/40kt now...this COULD go straight to Hurricane at this rate!
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#117 Postby MGC » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:48 pm

The NHC will likely wait until the convection wraps totally around before upgrading this system.....MGC
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#118 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:54 pm

NOTHING NEW:

A LARGE NON-TROPICAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED OVER THE CENTRAL
ATLANTIC...ABOUT 950 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE AZORES ISLANDS...
CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION. ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE NOT VERY FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM STILL
HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SLOWLY ACQUIRE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS DURING
THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN
BE FOUND IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE...UNDER AWIPS HEADER NFDHSFAT1 AND WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC.
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#119 Postby Forecaster Colby » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:58 pm

"Continues to show signs of organization"...despite the complete lack of reference in previous TWOs today?
Meh...Ill write up an amateur advisory tomorrow morning...sleepy time. I love cold weather, THANK YOU NOR'EASTER!
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#120 Postby krysof » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:00 pm

Forecaster Colby wrote:
krysof wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:
quandary wrote:I think it'll be upgraded if convection wraps around completely. But comeon, Greek letters aren't really names, so even if this isn't really tropical, we could just call it Sub-tropical Storm Delta! But I guess NHC doesn't really want to be working so much anymore; they deserve a break. :D


lol they will get a break when and if this season ever finishes! lol but right now theres a system developing that IMO should be up graded! lol but any ways its not like I am a pro.! lol


They'll get plenty of breaks. Not like other people who work almost every single day for the whole year. They get sometimes over 6 months of break.


I know they have to do that and this year they will spend a lot of time doing that. Its obvious they have other little jobs but they must be easier.

Not really. When they get those six months, they analyze the data from the previous year.
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