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Favorite Pair of Hurricanes (Devastation Included!)

Katrina - Wilma
11
22%
Katrina - Andrew
9
18%
Katrina - Camille
14
27%
Katrina - Mitch
4
8%
Mitch - Gilbert
0
No votes
Mitch - Labor Day Hurricane
1
2%
Floyd - Gilbert
1
2%
Isabel - Katrina
2
4%
Andrew - Labor Day Hurricane
3
6%
Andrew - Camille
1
2%
Other - Please Specify
5
10%
 
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#41 Postby Anonymous » Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:57 pm

sunny wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:
sunny wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:I always thought the impact of Ivan, while very destructive was a little bit exaggerated, to a storm like Charley.


Like I said before, when you live through a cane and your life is shattered, it is major. It cannot be over exaggerated.


On the personal level? No it cannot be over exaggerated. For all we know, somebody right now is still upset about Tropical Storm Frances in 1998 in Texas, even though Frances of 1998 is not seen as quite that significant in the general scale of hurricanes. Rita will most be remembered, on the general hurricane history scale as the 4th most intense hurricane ever recorded, and for having a pressure typical of a strong Cat 4 at landfall, even though winds were of a weakening Cat 3.


Concerning Rita:

In total, it is estimated that well over 2 million customers were without electricity. [6] Total insured damage is estimated at $4-6 billion, which means the overall damage will likely be between $8-11 billion. [7]

The reported death toll as of 10 p.m. CDT on October 3 (0300 UTC October 4) stands at 119. Only six of them were direct deaths. One was caused by a hurricane-related tornado in the outer bands, and three others were caused by fallen trees during the storm. The two Florida deaths were both in rip currents on beaches caused by Rita's distant waves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Rita

I think that is pretty bad.


119 INDIRECT, I believe most of those were caused by the bus explosion in Texas. Bad, but the DIRECT deaths with Katrina are in the thousands. Rita's death toll is about as much as Hurricane Lili and Isidore's. Bad, but not epic.
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#42 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:00 pm

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southerngale wrote:While I don't have a favorite hurricane pair, I'm surprised that Rita isn't up there at all, while other hurricanes that weren't as intense, in winds and pressure are there. hmmm, odd


Rita is considered the childs play storm compared to Katrina/Wilma. Rita's damage, while Cat 3-ish is nothing like the extreme Cat 4 damage of Wilma in the Yucatan, and the catastrophic Cat 5 damage of Katrina in LA/MA
Ok, what is Ophelia, Andrew, Isabel, Alex, Charley, Ivan, Frances, Jeanne, Janet, Opal, etc... called??? Are they "child's play" to??? Just because they were less destructive than Katrina doesnt mean they were childs play... Thats like comparing the destruction of a 175 MPH Cat 5 and a 165 MPH Cat 5, and saying the 165 one was "child's play" compared to the 175 one just because the 175 one was bigger and had a storm surge 15 feet higher... Either way people died, and 10 tons of (20,000) familys lost everything... :cry:
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#43 Postby Anonymous » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:03 pm

brunota2003 wrote:
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southerngale wrote:While I don't have a favorite hurricane pair, I'm surprised that Rita isn't up there at all, while other hurricanes that weren't as intense, in winds and pressure are there. hmmm, odd


Rita is considered the childs play storm compared to Katrina/Wilma. Rita's damage, while Cat 3-ish is nothing like the extreme Cat 4 damage of Wilma in the Yucatan, and the catastrophic Cat 5 damage of Katrina in LA/MA
Ok, what is Ophelia, Andrew, Isabel, Alex, Charley, Ivan, Frances, Jeanne, Janet, Opal, etc... called??? Are they "child's play" to??? Just because they were less destructive than Katrina doesnt mean they were childs play... Thats like comparing the destruction of a 175 MPH Cat 5 and a 165 MPH Cat 5, and saying the 165 one was "child's play" compared to the 175 one just because the 175 one was bigger and had a storm surge 15 feet higher... Either way people died, and 10 tons of (20,000) familys lost everything... :cry:


Ok, now people are taking it out of context. Katrina VS Rita...KATRINA WINS bigtime. Katrina's death toll, and impact make Rita look like childs play compared to it.

BIGTIME HISTORIC STORMS are rare:

1886
1900
1935
Camille
Gilbert
Andrew
Katrina
Wilma
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#44 Postby southerngale » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:05 pm

Do y'all not realize that almost EVERYONE here evacuated? Of course there weren't nearly as many deaths. People learned after watching what happened with Katrina. If there were people in a lot of the houses and businesses in this area, they'd be dead. But they left. (90 something %) Of course the death toll is low. Common sense.
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#45 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:08 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:
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southerngale wrote:While I don't have a favorite hurricane pair, I'm surprised that Rita isn't up there at all, while other hurricanes that weren't as intense, in winds and pressure are there. hmmm, odd


Rita is considered the childs play storm compared to Katrina/Wilma. Rita's damage, while Cat 3-ish is nothing like the extreme Cat 4 damage of Wilma in the Yucatan, and the catastrophic Cat 5 damage of Katrina in LA/MA
Ok, what is Ophelia, Andrew, Isabel, Alex, Charley, Ivan, Frances, Jeanne, Janet, Opal, etc... called??? Are they "child's play" to??? Just because they were less destructive than Katrina doesnt mean they were childs play... Thats like comparing the destruction of a 175 MPH Cat 5 and a 165 MPH Cat 5, and saying the 165 one was "child's play" compared to the 175 one just because the 175 one was bigger and had a storm surge 15 feet higher... Either way people died, and 10 tons of (20,000) familys lost everything... :cry:


Ok, now people are taking it out of context. Katrina VS Rita...KATRINA WINS bigtime. Katrina's death toll, and impact make Rita look like childs play compared to it.

BIGTIME HISTORIC STORMS are rare:

1886
1900
1935
Camille
Gilbert
Andrew
Katrina
Wilma
Ummm... People dont evac a city thats below sea level = lots o' dead people, sorry if i offended anyone...
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#46 Postby sunny » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:11 pm

brunota2003 wrote:Ummm... People dont evac a city thats below sea level = lots o' dead people, sorry if i offended anyone...


Just a wee bit offended. You have to remember that we were told through Friday night that Katrina was going to Florida. So # 1, not everyone had enough time to get out and #2, not everyone had the means to get out. I'll stop there so this doesn't get political. My point is, don't be so quick to judge until you walk in someone's shoes.

This has gotten WAY off topic now. I apologize for my part in that.
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#47 Postby Anonymous » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:19 pm

brunota2003 wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:
southerngale wrote:While I don't have a favorite hurricane pair, I'm surprised that Rita isn't up there at all, while other hurricanes that weren't as intense, in winds and pressure are there. hmmm, odd


Rita is considered the childs play storm compared to Katrina/Wilma. Rita's damage, while Cat 3-ish is nothing like the extreme Cat 4 damage of Wilma in the Yucatan, and the catastrophic Cat 5 damage of Katrina in LA/MA
Ok, what is Ophelia, Andrew, Isabel, Alex, Charley, Ivan, Frances, Jeanne, Janet, Opal, etc... called??? Are they "child's play" to??? Just because they were less destructive than Katrina doesnt mean they were childs play... Thats like comparing the destruction of a 175 MPH Cat 5 and a 165 MPH Cat 5, and saying the 165 one was "child's play" compared to the 175 one just because the 175 one was bigger and had a storm surge 15 feet higher... Either way people died, and 10 tons of (20,000) familys lost everything... :cry:


Ok, now people are taking it out of context. Katrina VS Rita...KATRINA WINS bigtime. Katrina's death toll, and impact make Rita look like childs play compared to it.

BIGTIME HISTORIC STORMS are rare:

1886
1900
1935
Camille
Gilbert
Andrew
Katrina
Wilma
Ummm... People dont evac a city thats below sea level = lots o' dead people, sorry if i offended anyone...


Im not offended at all. Friday at 11pm, August 26th...Katrina to be Cat 4, track over New Orleans. Anybody who died due to not leaving, they had 48 hrs knowing the storm would be ATLEAST a Cat 4 near New Orleans. They had plenty of time.
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#48 Postby southerngale » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:25 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:Ok, now people are taking it out of context. Katrina VS Rita...KATRINA WINS bigtime. Katrina's death toll, and impact make Rita look like childs play compared to it.



Actually, YOU took it out of context. Why are you comparing Rita to Katrina anyway? I think everyone knows that Katrina was stronger at landfall. Why are you comparing the two? Who are you arguing with?

As to my original comment, I assumed the original thread meant "at peak" since Isabel, Floyd etc. were on there and Rita was stronger than both at peak and at landfall. I didn't even mention Katrina, so I don't know why you jumped to that comparison for some strange reason.

Your child's play comment is just as offending as it was earlier. Want to leave Ohio and let me give you a tour around here?

As to the death toll...I commented. Maybe you missed it:

Do y'all not realize that almost EVERYONE here evacuated? Of course there weren't nearly as many deaths. People learned after watching what happened with Katrina. If there were people in a lot of the houses and businesses in this area, they'd be dead. But they left. (90 something %) Of course the death toll is low. Common sense.
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#49 Postby Anonymous » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:29 pm

southerngale wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:Ok, now people are taking it out of context. Katrina VS Rita...KATRINA WINS bigtime. Katrina's death toll, and impact make Rita look like childs play compared to it.



Actually, YOU took it out of context. Why are you comparing Rita to Katrina anyway? I think everyone knows that Katrina was stronger at landfall. Why are you comparing the two? Who are you arguing with?

As to my original comment, I assumed the original thread meant "at peak" since Isabel, Floyd etc. were on there and Rita was stronger than both at peak and at landfall. I didn't even mention Katrina, so I don't know why you jumped to that comparison for some strange reason.

Your child's play comment is just as offending as it was earlier. Want to leave Ohio and let me give you a tour around here?

As to the death toll...I commented. Maybe you missed it:

Do y'all not realize that almost EVERYONE here evacuated? Of course there weren't nearly as many deaths. People learned after watching what happened with Katrina. If there were people in a lot of the houses and businesses in this area, they'd be dead. But they left. (90 something %) Of course the death toll is low. Common sense.


I understand Hurricane Rita was bad, but it was not as bad as Hurricane Katrina. On the personal level though, those affected by Rita could feel that Rita was worse. I've had enough arguing. Things were taken out of context. I sometimes get the feeling people might have WANTED Rita to be a Cat 4 into Galveston.
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#50 Postby f5 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:40 pm

rita would of made Katrina look like child play only if Rita would of made landfall between Galveston and freeport
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#51 Postby Anonymous » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:43 pm

f5 wrote:rita would of made Katrina look like child play only if Rita would of made landfall between Galveston and freeport


Hmm, Katrina is hard to beat.
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#52 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:46 pm

f5 wrote:rita would of made Katrina look like child play only if Rita would of made landfall between Galveston and freeport
i agree...
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#53 Postby southerngale » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:48 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:I understand Hurricane Rita was bad, but it was not as bad as Hurricane Katrina.


For the third time in this thread alone, I know that. Everyone knows that. Who are you telling that to? And what is your point? You keep saying that and don't answer the questions I asked. I have no idea why you're even comparing the two!
YOU took things out of context.



~Floydbuster wrote:I sometimes get the feeling people might have WANTED Rita to be a Cat 4 into Galveston.


What??? Who in the world would want that? I see how bad it is here and it hit as a cat3!! Who are these "people" you think would have wanted it to go further west and hit Galveston as a cat4? Where did that come from anyway?

My goodness...:roll:
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#54 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:48 pm

sunny wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:Ummm... People dont evac a city thats below sea level = lots o' dead people, sorry if i offended anyone...


Just a wee bit offended. You have to remember that we were told through Friday night that Katrina was going to Florida. So # 1, not everyone had enough time to get out and #2, not everyone had the means to get out. I'll stop there so this doesn't get political. My point is, don't be so quick to judge until you walk in someone's shoes.

This has gotten WAY off topic now. I apologize for my part in that.
Yep, I understand that some couldnt get out, I was just stating that when they cant and the city is below sea level, then most of the time some of the people will die...unfortunetly :cry:
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#55 Postby Anonymous » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:50 pm

southerngale wrote:
~Floydbuster wrote:I sometimes get the feeling people might have WANTED Rita to be a Cat 4 into Galveston.


What??? Who in the world would want that? I see how bad it is here and it hit as a cat3!! Who are these "people" you think would have wanted it to go further west and hit Galveston as a cat4? Where did that come from anyway?

My goodness...:roll:


Yea, some people have come across that way.
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#56 Postby sunny » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:51 pm

brunota2003 wrote:
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brunota2003 wrote:Ummm... People dont evac a city thats below sea level = lots o' dead people, sorry if i offended anyone...


Just a wee bit offended. You have to remember that we were told through Friday night that Katrina was going to Florida. So # 1, not everyone had enough time to get out and #2, not everyone had the means to get out. I'll stop there so this doesn't get political. My point is, don't be so quick to judge until you walk in someone's shoes.

This has gotten WAY off topic now. I apologize for my part in that.
Yep, I understand that some couldn't get out, I was just stating that when they cant and the city is below sea level, then most of the time some of the people will die...unfortunately :cry:


UNLESS the levees had not broke. If the levees had not broke, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that is another story.
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#57 Postby f5 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:51 pm

Media wanted a double catastrophie Katrina hits NO as CAT 5 Rita hits Houstona as CAT 5
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#58 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:52 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:
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~Floydbuster wrote:I sometimes get the feeling people might have WANTED Rita to be a Cat 4 into Galveston.


What??? Who in the world would want that? I see how bad it is here and it hit as a cat3!! Who are these "people" you think would have wanted it to go further west and hit Galveston as a cat4? Where did that come from anyway?

My goodness...:roll:


Yea, some people have come across that way.
well, if it had, then we'd be saying that Katrina wasnt "child's play" :roll:
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#59 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:54 pm

sunny wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:
sunny wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:Ummm... People dont evac a city thats below sea level = lots o' dead people, sorry if i offended anyone...


Just a wee bit offended. You have to remember that we were told through Friday night that Katrina was going to Florida. So # 1, not everyone had enough time to get out and #2, not everyone had the means to get out. I'll stop there so this doesn't get political. My point is, don't be so quick to judge until you walk in someone's shoes.

This has gotten WAY off topic now. I apologize for my part in that.
Yep, I understand that some couldn't get out, I was just stating that when they cant and the city is below sea level, then most of the time some of the people will die...unfortunately :cry:


UNLESS the levees had not broke. If the levees had not broke, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But that is another story.
Yep, had the levees not broken, then the death toll would be WAY lower, the levees would have been overtopped, so parts would still be under water, but waist deep at the most instead of 20 feet...
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#60 Postby Anonymous » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:56 pm

f5 wrote:Media wanted a double catastrophie Katrina hits NO as CAT 5 Rita hits Houstona as CAT 5


Exactamoondoh
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