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#21 Postby Aslkahuna » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:43 pm

Do a Google Search on Watts-August 1965. Then read the underlying factors of that event and those being talked about as factors in the current French riots. Finally note that despite 30 years of Democratic controlled Congresses and 10 years of Republican controlled ones that things haven't changed all that much in our inner cities and then claim again that it can't happen here. We thought that about Pearl Harbor and 9-11 too.

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#22 Postby coriolis » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:49 pm

Sean Hannitty had a guest that asserted that the Muslim bad guys are behind this - the start of a civil war in Europe. He stated that middle eastern immigrants are now 10% of the french population, and are ready to flex their muscle in a calculated move to start destabilizing the decadent western civilization.

Something to think about.
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#23 Postby streetsoldier » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:16 pm

coriolis wrote:Sean Hannitty had a guest that asserted that the Muslim bad guys are behind this - the start of a civil war in Europe. He stated that middle eastern immigrants are now 10% of the french population, and are ready to flex their muscle in a calculated move to start destabilizing the decadent western civilization.

Something to think about.


Yes, it is! Does anyone REALLY think that the Islamic exodus into Europe and America, beginning in the 1980's, is "happenstance"? I do not; and the influx of Islamics overstaying their visas was duly noted in my FEMA "Terrorist Protocol" course in 1985. That's right, 20 years ago, friends, Romans and countrymen.
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#24 Postby JQ Public » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:31 pm

I'm sure the same was said when there was an influx of German, Italian, and Irish immigrants. You will always get the good with the bad with any ethnic community. Not too long ago Japanese people and such were the most hated people in America. I guess its a generational thing that will pass. It is interesting though that muslims are a religious people and can't really be categorized as a race...there are muslims that are black, white and brown.
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#25 Postby P.K. » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:18 am

streetsoldier wrote:Note that there have been a few cars set on fire in the UK..."copycats", not massive rioting...yet.


I've even looked for this now and can't find anything. It is possible these car fires have nothing to do with it.

Rioting has continued overnight:


French riots defy emergency plan

Rioting has continued in France for a 13th consecutive night, despite emergency powers aimed at restoring order coming into force.

More than 500 cars had been torched by 0400 (0300GMT), police said. Around 200 people were arrested.

But police said the levels of violence across the country were lower than the previous night.

The northern city of Amiens was the first to impose an overnight curfew under the new emergency plan.

The special decree giving local authorities and police emergency powers to deal with rioters came into force at midnight.

Two Paris suburbs, Savigny-sur-Orge and Le Raincy, as well as the historic city of Orleans, have already declared separate curfews not covered by the law.

Despite this, incidents were reported in several areas:

* The entire public transport network was shut down in the central-eastern city of Lyon after a Molotov cocktail was thrown at a train station

* A gas-powered bus exploded in the suburbs of the south-western city of Bordeaux after it was hit by a Molotov cocktail

* Youths in the city of Toulouse threw firebombs at police and set fire to cars

Paris, where the rioting began nearly two weeks ago, was relatively calm with some isolated cases of arson and a dozen arrests, the police said.

Shortly before the decree came into effect, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, on a visit to Toulouse, said police were reporting a "fairly significant fall" in violence.

State of emergency

The emergency powers were approved in a special cabinet meeting earlier on Tuesday.


CURFEW LAW
Cabinet can declare state of emergency in all or part of the country
Regional leaders given exceptional powers to apply curfew
Breach of curfew could mean two-month jail sentence
Police can carry out raids on suspected weapons stockpiles
Interior minister can issue house-arrest warrants for those deemed dangerous to public safety
Public meeting places can be closed down
House searches possible day or night
Authorities can control media, film and theatre performances
Emergency can only be extended beyond 12 days if approved by parliament


They allow a state of emergency to be declared in defined areas, restricting the movement of people and vehicles.

Police are entitled to carry out house searches and ban public meetings.

Mr Sarkozy, who announced the measures, said: "The violent events that happened in our territory, and the people responsible [for the violence] will be arrested and punished".

But some opposition parties, and the French magistrates association, have described the measures as a danger to civil liberties.

Minors are subject to the law between 2200 and 0600 (2100 and 0500 GMT) unless accompanied by an adult, and are also banned from buying petrol.


The nightly protests have gripped deprived areas where unemployment is rife and residents complain of racism and discrimination.


Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin said on Tuesday the restoration of law and order in those suburbs would take time and hard work.

And he also outlined plans to improve opportunities for young people through jobs and education programmes and create an agency to combat racial discrimination.

"The republic is at a moment of truth," he said. "What is being questioned is the effectiveness of our integration model."

The unrest was first sparked by the deaths in the run-down Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois of two youths, who were accidentally electrocuted at an electricity sub-station.


FRENCH RIOTS
One man killed
5,873 cars torched
1,500 people arrested
17 people sentenced
120 police and firefighters injured
Figures as of 8 November

Locals said they were being chased by the police, but the police deny this.

The new emergency powers handed to local authorities have been invoked under a 1955 law.

The law was originally passed to combat violence in Algeria in its war of independence against France from 1954-62. It was also used in New Caledonia in 1985.

This is the first time the law has been implemented in mainland France.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4419770.stm
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#26 Postby gtalum » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:45 am

coriolis wrote:Sean Hannitty had a guest that asserted that the Muslim bad guys are behind this - the start of a civil war in Europe. He stated that middle eastern immigrants are now 10% of the french population, and are ready to flex their muscle in a calculated move to start destabilizing the decadent western civilization. .


I would take anything I heard on Hannity's shows with a large grain of salt. Even things that are "true" that are stated on his show are first filtered through his political agenda.
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#27 Postby azsnowman » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:13 pm

This JUST in!!


Sunday, November 06, 2005
President Bush May Send Up To 5 Marines For French Assistance
11/4/2005 - Shelby Trial


President Bush has authorized the Joint Chiefs to begin drawing up a battle plan to pull France's ass out of the fire again. Facing an apparent overwhelming force of up to 400 pissed off teenagers Mr. Bush doubts France's ability to hold off the little pissants. "He**, if the last two world wars are any indication, I would expect France to surrender any day now", said Bush. Joint Chiefs head, Gen. Peter Pace, warned the President that it might be necessary to send up to 5 Marines to get things under control. The general admitted that 5 Marines may be overkill but he wanted to get this thing under control within 24 hours of arriving on scene. He stated he was having a hard time finding even one Marine to help those ungrateful bassturds out for a third time but thought that he could persuade a few women Marines to do the job before they went on pregnancy leave.

President Bush asked Gen. Pace to get our Marines out of there as soon as possible after order was restored. He also reminded Gen. Pace to make sure the Marines did not take soap, razors, or deodorant with them. The least they stand out the better.




THANKS Karan!

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