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What do you think?

Poll ended at Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:13 pm

Storm of the Century
6
18%
Perfect Storm
4
12%
strong noreaster
10
30%
no, timing is off
3
9%
no, not possible
4
12%
over-hyped
4
12%
Just DIE and leave the U.S. alone!!!
2
6%
 
Total votes: 33

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Perfect Storm/ Superstorm?

#1 Postby cgstorm5 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:13 pm

I posted this in the winter and U.S weather forums and didn't get enough feedback. If a fujiwara is not possible due to fast absorption rate can a perfect storm still congeal off the East Coast? JB, NBC Weather Plus, and TWC are all hinting at a major weather player in the Northeast by Tue.

IMO I see a bomb explode off Cape Hatteras, though models don't agree. But, they do show on GFS past 3 days a huge storm travelling across the North Atlantic to Europe! Even if the timing of Wilma shooting off FL and TD Alpha are off can at least a monster wet noreaster form? The oversimplified maps on Accuweather and TWC aren't telling the whole story of this week's possible Storm of the Century.

Since the track of Wilma and timing of her exit into the Atlantic is a big factor I think this post belongs here. And certainly with that type of tropical connection converging with a winter-like air mass something has got to give.

I apolagize if this irritates those who are sick of Wilma and just want normalcy. I don't want a superstorm ravaging the East coast with winter-like temps to flood New England again and hurt our economy spiking heating bills. However, I would love to see a humongous storm over the North Atlantic flexing the muscle of mother nature. Then "die a miserable death" before impacting England. That would be the icing on cake of the most active Atlantic season on record.
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#2 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:26 pm

Our local mets here in RI said tonight to be aware of the potential of a huge ocean storm resulting from Wilma and the moisture from Alpha feeding into the storm. A high wind watch was just issued for our area and he said for people to just be monitoring the situation over the next day or two. Apparently a low pressure to our west will pull Wilma a little closer to the coast than previosly thought
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#3 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:12 pm

Wierd I was thinking about this today

I think its possible we get a huge ocean storm out of it but I hope if it happens it just accelerates out to sea
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#4 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:17 pm

The storm will race up the coast so as long as it stays offshore we should be ok
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#5 Postby cgstorm5 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:27 pm

I know you must be irritated and just want to get through the first landfall, then concentrate on the next problem. But, I wanted to see how many of you, who have followed the tropics the past months, feel that this megastorm is overdue. Just look at the warmer SST anomalies off Long Is. and all year long unusually warm off Greenland to Iceland.

Now factor in a neg. MJO, neg. NAO, peak of AMO,more active PNA, highly amplified meridonial upper pattern, a steep ridge in the West tapping into the Siberian Express over northwest Canada, 2 tropical systems phasing into a strong southwesterly jet with a deep cold tongue of Arctic mixing to Polar air mass on its back= IMO a huge Day After Tomorrow-sized, covering the entire North Atlantic, and no not a backward hurricane.

Just think of all that heat stored up in Canada this past summer where temps soared to 90s, a highly-dense resevoir of CO2 from Alaska fires burning flowing over Montreal, warmest Sept. on record worldwide, warmest year on record since 1998 worlwide. Greenland ice caps melting 15 times faster due to persistent 500mb high anomaly ridge all summer, temperature tilt in the Arctic with record warm Siberia to Alaska where leakage of highly potent methane from frozen peat bogs. Record amount of thinning and loss of ice in Arctic. Another cold pool/ Polar Vortex stuck over Hudson Bay, blocked by ridging over Greenland and the West. Record amount of CO2 released in Europe due to plants that take in CO2 suddenly seap it out during 95+ deg heat waves in western Europe. Record methane levels also emitting from drought-stricken Amazon forest due to deforestation of 1/5th of the "lung's of Earth." IMO everthing is interconnected and the smallest ripple leads to the biggest changes, the Chaos Theory.

Not one meteorological model could factor in these monumental changes, just the microscale effects that seem fluid and always have a pattern. Meteorologists focus only on the short-term never the long-term this is where JB, Jim Cantore, Chad Myers, Max Mayfield, Dr. Gray and any other pro mets can't tell you if/when this superstorm erupts. Only the experts in the climate research field could say within the next 20 yrs due to drastic changes worldwide but you won't see that in your local forecast in New England this week.
Cause until a weather forecaster understands the bigger scale of things instead of one nation, state, or city. they can't understand the dynamics to create a superstorm. Whatever environmental changes that happen in China can affect you in smalltown Maine.

We are all like those Floridians on tv still sunbathing and partying on the beach and when a sudden change happens our fragility as humans is revealed. You live on a planet that changes everyday beneath your feet to above your head.. If we continue down this road in denial of our damaging ways more chaos is to come. The UN has stated natural disasters have increased 3 times the anual amount since 1990. That's basically in a nutshell of what this year has taught me.

Sorry I went off topic but this is what we need to realize as weather watchers for survival in a fast changing world and never let a model tell you everything or always agree with your local met. That's why IMO if your anywhere along the East Coast start preparing and those in Europe prepare for an early winter a big chill is ahead.
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a big storm, but not that big

#6 Postby BigA » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:35 pm

I can see a large, problematic storm out of all this, but not a WE'RE ALL DOOMED type storm.

Whether any "superstorm" forms or not depends on the timing
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#7 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:42 pm

Wow!! :eek:
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