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#901 Postby EyELeSs1 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:59 pm

conversion from 700mb is around 0.8 in outer vortex and around 0.9 in eyewall
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#902 Postby artist » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:07 pm

ok - on the NOAA flights I know the winds are the 6th from left, I can't remember on the other flight which column it is (someone spoiled us for a long time posting them with a fomula!) :D
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#903 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:13 pm

Another vortex shortly, heights are once again lower. Could have a lower pressure.
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#904 Postby Solaris » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:19 pm

707
URNT12 KNHC 231918
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 23/19:05:40Z
B. 23 deg 19 min N
085 deg 16 min W
C. 700 mb 2769 m
D. NA kt
E. deg nm
F. 341 deg 071 kt
G. 260 deg 039 nm
H. 961 mb
I. 13 C/ 3046 m
J. 14 C/ 3046 m
K. 11 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. 55
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 4 nm
P. AF304 2124A WILMA OB 27
MAX FL WIND 96 KT S QUAD 17:16:40 Z
SFC CNTR 180 / 8 NM FROM FL CNTR
CLOUD CURVATURE DEVELOPING WITHIN EYE. STORM SHOWING MORE TILT FROM FLIGHT LEVEL TO SURFACE.
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#905 Postby JtSmarts » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:21 pm

Solaris wrote:707
URNT12 KNHC 231918
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 23/19:05:40Z
B. 23 deg 19 min N
085 deg 16 min W
C. 700 mb 2769 m
D. NA kt
E. deg nm
F. 341 deg 071 kt
G. 260 deg 039 nm
H. 961 mb
I. 13 C/ 3046 m
J. 14 C/ 3046 m
K. 11 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. 55
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 4 nm
P. AF304 2124A WILMA OB 27
MAX FL WIND 96 KT S QUAD 17:16:40 Z
SFC CNTR 180 / 8 NM FROM FL CNTR
CLOUD CURVATURE DEVELOPING WITHIN EYE. STORM SHOWING MORE TILT FROM FLIGHT LEVEL TO SURFACE.


What does that last line about cloud curvature mean.
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#906 Postby sweetpea » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:21 pm

CLOUD CURVATURE DEVELOPING WITHIN EYE. STORM SHOWING MORE TILT FROM FLIGHT LEVEL TO SURFACE

What do they mean by that? Debbie
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#907 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:21 pm

Eye dropsonde, the wind got blacked out so don't know how accurate of a drop it was.

274
UZNT13 KNHC 231918
XXAA 73197 99233 70853 08135 99961 27200 ///// 00856 ///// /////
92338 25000 ///// 85082 22006 29503 70757 15205 08003 88999 77999
31313 09608 81905
61616 AF304 2124A WILMA OB 28
62626 EYE SPL 2332N08526W 1909 LST WND 770 AEV 20507 DLM WND 2000
1 881723 =
XXBB 73198 99233 70853 08135 00961 27200 11850 22006 22726 16221
33697 15203
21212 00961 ///// 11881 30503 22850 29503 33697 08503
31313 09608 81905
61616 AF304 2124A WILMA OB 28
62626 EYE SPL 2332N08526W 1909 LST WND 770 AEV 20507 DLM WND 2000
1 881723 =
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#908 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:22 pm

93kt wind just reported in NE quad.
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#909 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:23 pm

96 kt wind reported in NE
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#910 Postby shawn67 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:25 pm

jkt21787 wrote:96 kt wind reported in NE


Flight level???

Shawn
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#911 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:26 pm

shawn67 wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:96 kt wind reported in NE


Flight level???

Shawn

yes.
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#912 Postby Typhoon » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:26 pm

shawn67 wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:96 kt wind reported in NE


Flight level???

Shawn


Yes.
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#913 Postby clueless newbie » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:27 pm

JtSmarts wrote:
Solaris wrote:707
URNT12 KNHC 231918
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE

A. 23/19:05:40Z
B. 23 deg 19 min N
085 deg 16 min W
C. 700 mb 2769 m
D. NA kt
E. deg nm
F. 341 deg 071 kt
G. 260 deg 039 nm
H. 961 mb
I. 13 C/ 3046 m
J. 14 C/ 3046 m
K. 11 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. 55
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 4 nm
P. AF304 2124A WILMA OB 27
MAX FL WIND 96 KT S QUAD 17:16:40 Z
SFC CNTR 180 / 8 NM FROM FL CNTR
CLOUD CURVATURE DEVELOPING WITHIN EYE. STORM SHOWING MORE TILT FROM FLIGHT LEVEL TO SURFACE.


What does that last line about cloud curvature mean.

Shear?

(The eye is down to 55 and deep convection wrapping up...)
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#914 Postby EyELeSs1 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:27 pm

They also changed the 96knts to S quad like i thought

MAX FL WIND 96 KT SE QUAD 17:16:40 Z
------------->MAX FL WIND 96 KT S QUAD 17:16:40 Z
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#915 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:30 pm

sweetpea wrote:CLOUD CURVATURE DEVELOPING WITHIN EYE. STORM SHOWING MORE TILT FROM FLIGHT LEVEL TO SURFACE

What do they mean by that? Debbie
its trying to consolidate the eye, TRYING being the operative word. consolidate means stronger deb
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#916 Postby Solaris » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:32 pm

97 kt per AF?
278
SXXX50 KNHC 231930
AF304 2124A WILMA HDOB 38 KNHC
1919. 2323N 08425W 03050 5118 182 091 092 092 095 02979 0000000000
1920 2324N 08423W 03048 5112 183 093 084 084 097 02982 0000000100
1920. 2324N 08422W 03046 5107 182 094 080 080 095 02986 0000000100
1921 2324N 08420W 03046 5101 183 095 080 080 096 02991 0000000100
1921. 2324N 08418W 03047 5095 183 095 078 078 097 03000 0000000100

but data ragged?
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#917 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:34 pm

97kt wind found.
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#918 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:36 pm

cycloneye wrote:97kt wind found.


flight level or surface? If at flight level, what does it translate down to surface?

<RICKY>
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#919 Postby cinlfla » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:37 pm

CLOUD CURVATURE DEVELOPING WITHIN EYE. STORM SHOWING MORE TILT FROM FLIGHT LEVEL TO SURFACE

What do they mean by that? Debbie



OK I follow recon for wind and position purposes but what the heck does this mean.
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#920 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:37 pm

cycloneye wrote:97kt wind found.

Luis, it appears the 97 kt readings were flagged as suspicious. Not sure about it right now...
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