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#881 Postby Scorpion » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:57 am

WindRunner wrote:They just found 91 kt flight-level winds in the SW eyewall. That's a little, well, strange.


How is that strange?
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#882 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:58 am

Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.
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#883 Postby Scorpion » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:59 am

Brent wrote:Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.


Well then have they sampled the strongest quad yet?
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#884 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:00 pm

Scorpion wrote:
Brent wrote:Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.


Well then have they sampled the strongest quad yet?


Yes... they found 90 kt in the NE quad.
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#885 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:00 pm

Scorpion wrote:
Brent wrote:Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.


Well then have they sampled the strongest quad yet?


Yes, and those winds were ~5kts weaker, as the SE quad is the front right with Wilma. Sure, it could be a sampling discrepancy, but if these winds exist in the SW quad, then certainly there are stronger winds in the SE quad.
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#886 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:02 pm

Brent wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
Brent wrote:Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.


Well then have they sampled the strongest quad yet?


Yes... they found 90 kt in the NE quad.

SE quad will actually be the strongest in this storm.
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#887 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:03 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
Brent wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
Brent wrote:Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.


Well then have they sampled the strongest quad yet?


Yes... they found 90 kt in the NE quad.

SE quad will actually be the strongest in this storm.


...and the winds are even weaker there.

Very strange.
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#888 Postby Scorpion » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:03 pm

WindRunner wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
Brent wrote:Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.


Well then have they sampled the strongest quad yet?


Yes, and those winds were ~5kts weaker, as the SE quad is the front right with Wilma. Sure, it could be a sampling discrepancy, but if these winds exist in the SW quad, then certainly there are stronger winds in the SE quad.


Well maybe theyre stronger now? How long ago did they sample the SE quad.
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#889 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:05 pm

Scorpion wrote:
WindRunner wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
Brent wrote:Because the strongest winds aren't supposed to be there? :?: I'm very confused.


Well then have they sampled the strongest quad yet?


Yes, and those winds were ~5kts weaker, as the SE quad is the front right with Wilma. Sure, it could be a sampling discrepancy, but if these winds exist in the SW quad, then certainly there are stronger winds in the SE quad.


Well maybe theyre stronger now? How long ago did they sample the SE quad.


About 75mins ago.
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#890 Postby EyELeSs1 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:06 pm

are you sure they have sampled the SE quad...i'm not sure of this
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#891 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:07 pm

EyELeSs1 wrote:are you sure they have sampled the SE quad...i'm not sure of this


2 hours ago...

1507. 2221N 08528W 03041 5147 224 085 090 090 089 02941 0000000100
1508 2220N 08527W 03049 5139 225 086 086 086 089 02957 0000000100
1508. 2219N 08525W 03048 5131 225 084 108 108 086 02964 0000000000
1509 2218N 08524W 03046 5122 226 083 110 110 083 02971 0000000000
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#892 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:07 pm

EyELeSs1 wrote:are you sure they have sampled the SE quad...i'm not sure of this

I don't think this particular plane has sampled the SE quad yet, that was the plane before.
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#893 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:22 pm

96 kts found, SE quad I believe.
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#894 Postby Lowpressure » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:25 pm

96 kts and a large wind field around it. I still feel this might be a bit stronger than many are thinking as it approaches Florida.
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#895 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:46 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
EyELeSs1 wrote:are you sure they have sampled the SE quad...i'm not sure of this

I don't think this particular plane has sampled the SE quad yet, that was the plane before.


No, they definately have. It was strange when they were only finding a max of 89kt winds. The 96kts (maybe higher) winds seem to be more in line with the rest of the storm.


Look what you miss in a half-hour. :)
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#896 Postby EyELeSs1 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:54 pm

96knts in S quad not SE
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#897 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:11 pm

183
URNT12 KNHC 231807
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 23/17:50:10Z
B. 23 deg 02 min N
085 deg 27 min W
C. 700 mb 2778 m
D. NA kt
E. 000 deg 000 nm
F. 216 deg 085 kt
G. 135 deg 059 nm
H. 963 mb
I. 8 C/ 3046 m
J. 14 C/ 3050 m
K. 13 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C60
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.06 / 2 nm
P. AF304 2124A WILMA OB 21
MAX FL WIND 96 KT SE QUAD 17:16:40 Z

96 kts SE Quad.No change in the pressure.
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#898 Postby EyELeSs1 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:11 pm

isn't this 96knt wind in the S quad...as winds are from the west??
1718. 2205N 08532W 03045 5074 271 094 092 092 096 03018 0000000000

because from the vortex they say MAX FL WIND 96 KT SE QUAD 17:16:40 Z
?????
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#899 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:19 pm

how do you figure out the surface winds from 700MB?
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#900 Postby WindRunner » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:58 pm

southfloridawx2005 wrote:how do you figure out the surface winds from 700MB?


You can extrapolate (not sure of the conversion), or use the dropsondes like they have been doing.
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