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#841 Postby thunderchief » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:44 pm

"M. C25"

that indicates the inner eyewall is 25 miles in diameter. Looking at radar it looks like the outer one is about 75.
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#842 Postby artist » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:46 pm

thank you thunderchief :wink:
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#843 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:21 pm


URNT12 KNHC 212018
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 21/20:06:40Z
B. 20 deg 27 min N
086 deg 46 min W
C. 700 mb 2454 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 098 deg 119 kt
G. 008 deg 017 nm
H. 926 mb
I. 8 C/ 3050 m
J. 18 C/ 3049 m
K. 17 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C25
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF305 1524A WILMA OB 22
MAX FL WIND 123 KT NE QUAD 19:12:50 Z
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#844 Postby bigmoney755 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:49 pm

UZNT13 KNHC 212020
XXAA 7120/ 99203 70867 08106 99938 ///// ///// 00/// ///// 92///
///// 85862 21411 70536 13200 88999 77999
31313 09608 82009
51515 10191
61616 AF305 1524A WILMA OB 25
62626 EYEWALL 135 LST WND 418 AEV 20507 =
XXBB 71208 99203 70867 08106 00938 ///// 11895 22424 22850 21411
33731 16607 44706 15600 55696 12000
21212 00938 ///// 11894 22627 22890 22626 33883 22619 44871 22623
55696 23601
31313 09608 82009
51515 10191
61616 AF305 1524A WILMA OB 25
62626 EYEWALL 135 LST WND 418 AEV 20507 =

what does that mean?
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#845 Postby bigmoney755 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:54 pm

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URNT12 KNHC 212148
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 21/21:42:30Z
B. 20 deg 34 min N
086 deg 45 min W
C. 700 mb 2458 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 142 deg 115 kt
G. 46 deg 028 nm
H. EXTRAP 928 mb
I. 7 C/ 3044 m
J. 18 C/ 3040 m
K. 18 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C24
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF305 1524A WILMA OB 28
MAX FL WIND 119 KT N QUAD 20:01:50 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 700 MB
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#846 Postby bigmoney755 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:34 pm

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URNT12 KNHC 212322
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 21/23:11:00Z
B. 20 deg 34 min N
086 deg 45 min W
C. 700 mb 2474 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 222 deg 111 kt
G. 129 deg 031 nm
H. EXTRAP 930 mb
I. 9 C/ 3048 m
J. 17 C/ 3046 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C24
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF305 1524A WILMA OB 31
MAX FL WIND 119 KT N QUAD 20:01:50 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 700 MB
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#847 Postby mtm4319 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:53 pm

So, the 137 knots in the eyewall... does that mean NHC is going to increase the winds at 10 PM CDT?
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#848 Postby quandary » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:55 pm

I don't think there's an outer wind maxima at the moment. Surface winds are increasing or so it seems.
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#849 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:23 am

http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/tro ... OUS42.KNHC

Wow look at todays plan of the day for Wilma and you will see how many missions they will have from tommorow.None for TD25/Alpha.
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#850 Postby Brent » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:54 am

cycloneye wrote:http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/tropical/atlantic/NOUS42.KNHC

Wow look at todays plan of the day for Wilma and you will see how many missions they will have from tommorow.None for TD25/Alpha.


TD 25/Alpha will be over Hispanola tomorrow... but I did notice this:

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: A POSSIBLE FIX MISSION
AT 24/1800Z NEAR 26N 73W.
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#851 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:58 am

Yes that is for Alpha as it nears Bermuda.
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#852 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:28 pm

URNT12 KNHC 221820Z
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 22/1749Z
B. 21 DEG 13 MIN N
87 DEG 05 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2735 MA
D. 65
E. 045 DEG 60 NM
F. 140 DEG 90 KT
G. 042 DEG 40 NM
H. 958 MB
I. 11 C/ 3061 M
J. 14 C/ 3062 M
K. 14 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. E36/80/60
N. 12345/7
O. 1/1 NM
P. NOAA2 1824A WILMA OB 03
MAX FL WIND 90 KT NE QUAD 1739Z
RAGGED EYEWALL
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#853 Postby Scorpion » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:29 pm

NHC was pretty darn close in pressure estimate.
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#854 Postby Brent » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:37 pm

Closed wall after almost 24 hours over land= :eek:
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#855 Postby tallywx » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:14 pm

The E36/60/80 means that the closed wall being detected is the outer eyewall, at diameters of 60 and 80 miles respectively (E-W axis and N-S axis). We'll have to see whether the inner eye recovers. Here's an image of the latest findings:



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#856 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:51 pm

URNT12 KNHC 221942Z
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 22/1920Z
B. 21 DEG 20 MIN N
87 DEG 05 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2725 MA
D. 85
E. 135 DEG 35 NM
F. 221 DEG 81 KT
G. 136 DEG 51 NM
H. 957 MB
I. 11 C/ 3057 M
J. 14 C/ 3060 M
K. 14 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C75
N. 12345/7
O. 1/1 NM
P. NOAA2 1824A WILMA OB 08
MAX FL WIND 90 KT NE QUAD 1739Z
REMNENTS OF INNER EYEWALL ON RADAR.


Down one millibar from previous vortex.
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#857 Postby Brent » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:51 pm

75 mile wide eye???

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#858 Postby chris_fit » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:58 pm

Ok.

The pressure went DOWN with the eye getting MUCH bigger, that right there tells ya somethings up.

Not only that, but it did it OVER LAND.

It's like it did an ERC over land :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:
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#859 Postby WindRunner » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:01 pm

All that Cat 4 discussion from earlier today is looking more realistic now.
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#860 Postby bigmoney755 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:05 pm

how strong a hurricane will the loop current support? I thought the waters have cooled so about how strong do you guys think?
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