Hurricane Wilma - Cat. 5

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#3201 Postby krysof » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:12 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
krysof wrote:most of those models are bad especially the Lbar and the Bam models are not much better


And the GFDL?


the gfdl is usually a good model, but in this case it pulled a lot of weird stuff for the past couple of days so I'm not really sure which model to belive in
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#3202 Postby johngaltfla » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:13 pm

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jkt21787 wrote:I can't wait until people in Tampa jump on the three most unreliable and useless models out there showing a hit there...BAMD, A98E, and LBAR.


Uh, and the latest GFDL run? That puts the storm very close to the LBAR which has consistently been in the Tampa Bay area.

Don't dismiss the LBAR out of hand. If it's right, you'll have to request bbq sauce for your crow.

The GFDL is very close to the NHC right now, and I think its a good track. I will remain true to my word...If those models verify and Tampa gets a direct hit, I will no longer post on this board.


Uh, that's South Sarasota County to Port Charlotte. The NHC line isn't anywhere CLOSE to that....
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#3203 Postby jkt21787 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:13 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
krysof wrote:most of those models are bad especially the Lbar and the Bam models are not much better


And the GFDL?

GFDL is generally a good model (especially this year) but it has its moments as well. It would easily be the most reliable model of any of those others on the graphic.
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#3204 Postby jkt21787 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:15 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
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jkt21787 wrote:I can't wait until people in Tampa jump on the three most unreliable and useless models out there showing a hit there...BAMD, A98E, and LBAR.


Uh, and the latest GFDL run? That puts the storm very close to the LBAR which has consistently been in the Tampa Bay area.

Don't dismiss the LBAR out of hand. If it's right, you'll have to request bbq sauce for your crow.

The GFDL is very close to the NHC right now, and I think its a good track. I will remain true to my word...If those models verify and Tampa gets a direct hit, I will no longer post on this board.


Uh, that's South Sarasota County to Port Charlotte. The NHC line isn't anywhere CLOSE to that....

Dude, the red line just below the GFDL is the NHC. IMO thats very close to being on it for the time period we're at.
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#3205 Postby johngaltfla » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:18 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:I can't wait until people in Tampa jump on the three most unreliable and useless models out there showing a hit there...BAMD, A98E, and LBAR.


Uh, and the latest GFDL run? That puts the storm very close to the LBAR which has consistently been in the Tampa Bay area.

Don't dismiss the LBAR out of hand. If it's right, you'll have to request bbq sauce for your crow.

The GFDL is very close to the NHC right now, and I think its a good track. I will remain true to my word...If those models verify and Tampa gets a direct hit, I will no longer post on this board.


Uh, that's South Sarasota County to Port Charlotte. The NHC line isn't anywhere CLOSE to that....

Dude, the red line just below the GFDL is the NHC. IMO thats very close to being on it for the time period we're at.


Ignore the redline. Go to the PSU or FSU models page. Run it. You'll see what we're talking about.
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#3206 Postby jkt21787 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:19 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:I can't wait until people in Tampa jump on the three most unreliable and useless models out there showing a hit there...BAMD, A98E, and LBAR.


Uh, and the latest GFDL run? That puts the storm very close to the LBAR which has consistently been in the Tampa Bay area.

Don't dismiss the LBAR out of hand. If it's right, you'll have to request bbq sauce for your crow.

The GFDL is very close to the NHC right now, and I think its a good track. I will remain true to my word...If those models verify and Tampa gets a direct hit, I will no longer post on this board.


Uh, that's South Sarasota County to Port Charlotte. The NHC line isn't anywhere CLOSE to that....

Dude, the red line just below the GFDL is the NHC. IMO thats very close to being on it for the time period we're at.


Ignore the redline. Go to the PSU or FSU models page. Run it. You'll see what we're talking about.

Ignore the red line? So you are basically saying ingore the NHC track. Yeah right... :roll:
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#3207 Postby Brent » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:20 pm

Red is the NHC... pink is the GFDL.

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#3208 Postby CHRISTY » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:20 pm

job b. finally confiming what ive seening about this north movement...
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#3209 Postby johngaltfla » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:21 pm

Brent wrote:Red is the NHC... pink is the GFDL.

:P


I give up. I just watched the AVN/GFS animation and it's almost identical to the GFDL.

I think the northern movement and paralleling on the Yucatan coast could be very bad news and a rude awakening for many.
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#3210 Postby wxwatcher2 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:22 pm

CHRISTY wrote:job b. finally confiming what ive seening about this north movement...


I'm at work, what's JB saying???
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#3211 Postby Foladar0 » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:23 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:I can't wait until people in Tampa jump on the three most unreliable and useless models out there showing a hit there...BAMD, A98E, and LBAR.


Uh, and the latest GFDL run? That puts the storm very close to the LBAR which has consistently been in the Tampa Bay area.

Don't dismiss the LBAR out of hand. If it's right, you'll have to request bbq sauce for your crow.

The GFDL's been all over the place, nobody has a good handle on this storm, it could go anywhere in Florida.
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#3212 Postby johngaltfla » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:24 pm

wxwatcher2 wrote:
CHRISTY wrote:job b. finally confiming what ive seening about this north movement...


I'm at work, what's JB saying???


He's quoting and copying Christy's words. She should sue him (Just kidding).

He's sayind and seeing the storm hugging the coast, like typhoons do around Formosa, then moving north and possibly hitting Florida as a strong 2 or Cat 3. He's not moving his landfall point again but saying that it could still be a major when it hits.
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#3213 Postby Brent » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:24 pm

The GFDL has a landfall at Port Charlotte. That's not very far north of the NHC.
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#3214 Postby DrStorm » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:24 pm

CHRISTY wrote:job b. finally confiming what ive seening about this north movement...


Good Christy, now you can politely give the finger to everyone that's been ripping you for your observations. And some of them really deserve it.
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#3215 Postby Brent » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:26 pm

DrStorm wrote:
CHRISTY wrote:job b. finally confiming what ive seening about this north movement...


Good Christy, now you can politely give the finger to everyone that's been ripping you for your observations. And some of them really deserve it.


:lol:
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#3216 Postby TampaFl » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:28 pm

Some models have shifted more northly :eek: Thoughts and comments welcomed.

Robert 8-)


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#3217 Postby CHRISTY » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:29 pm

thanks.. iam just complementing on what iam seeing and to me this storm does not want to go onland. joeb on fox news said if that eye stays intact spells trouble for florida. as far as location he miami and keys area.
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#3218 Postby johngaltfla » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:31 pm

Brent wrote:The GFDL has a landfall at Port Charlotte. That's not very far north of the NHC.


It is for those of us 30 miles from Port Charlotte..... :eek:
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#3219 Postby ronjon » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:37 pm

Boy, I know its only one model run, but the 18Z GFDL is scary for Sarasota County residents. A CAT 3 storm with 120 mph winds smashing into Venice in 66-72 hrs. I don't like the trend in the models shifting north. It started with the GFS on yesterdays runs and continues today. The NOGAPS has been on and off shifting its track between Tampa and Ft Myers. It looks as though the new models are picking up on a slightly more amplified trough which would move Wilma more NE rather than E-NE. If I look where Wilma has traveled the last 6 hours and where she is likely to go, the new GFDL seems to have it pretty close, with just a short run over the NE tip of the YP. All I've heard from the local TV METs and CNN too is that this storm is gonna weaken considerably over the YUC and only be a CAT 1 by the time it gets to FL. Right now, that doesn't look to pan out. There could be surprised people in Tampa tomorrow if the models and Wilma trend even slightly more northward. :eek: :eek: :eek:


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2. ... =Animation
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#3220 Postby Wacahootaman » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:47 pm

That GFDL run shows a stronger, and better organized cane hitting Florida than its previous runs :eek:

Dont like this trend a tall!
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