RIC starting or just a flare up? Cat 5 now??

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RIC starting or just a flare up? Cat 5 now??

#1 Postby dhweather » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:43 pm

It will be interesting to watch this for the next few hours. God help
the people in the Yucatan, this isn't potentially catastrophic, it
IS CATASTROPHIC.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#2 Postby SamSagnella » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:46 pm

Another rapid intensification cycle would be absolutely devastating for NErn Yucatan Mexico. It seems that a strengthening storm of a given magnitude has greater damage potential than a weakening storm of the same magnitude. Category 1 Katrina in S FL caught many off-guard by it's 'really-intense-for-only-80-mph' winds.
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#3 Postby Lowpressure » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:51 pm

Eye is clearing out and the cloud tops are cooling. Nice jog to the NNW for some time now, I do not see a stall coming-just my opinion.
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#4 Postby dhweather » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:29 pm

The eye continues to clear out, and convection has increased in
all but the NW quadrant.
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#5 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:40 pm

good point DH, the eye is clearing out and that deep convection is getting very close to wrapping all the way around
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#6 Postby dhweather » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:54 pm

Looking at the IR loop, the deep convection has almost completely
encircled the core of Wilma. If she's not back to a cat 5 now, she
most certainly will be in a few hours. God be with those in the Yucatan.
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#7 Postby Normandy » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:58 pm

We wondered two years ago what Isabel would have done if it had hit land....now we will find out.
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#8 Postby jkt21787 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:05 pm

As I said in the primary comment thread, the western side has really been decayed recently. Not sure of this cat 5 talk anymore.
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#9 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:07 pm

kevin, take a look at the radar...very impressive....also, maybe land doing it?
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#10 Postby jkt21787 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:08 pm

deltadog03 wrote:kevin, take a look at the radar...very impressive....also, maybe land doing it?

PurdueWx80 believes its a good amount of shear which is reasonable. He agrees with me that time for a cat 5 has about run out...
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#11 Postby dhweather » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:09 pm

I guess the point is moot, they will get cat 5 surge without exception,
and battered with 4/5 winds for hours. This will be a catastrophic event.
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#12 Postby dhweather » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:13 pm

In the newest frame in the loop 0145Z - reds now circle to core of Wilma.
It's not as deep on the NW side, but it is consistently building over
there.

I strongly suspect she is a 5 again.
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#13 Postby MiamiensisWx » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:16 pm

Despite shear to it's west, convection is starting to entirely circle the eye and build below...
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#14 Postby caneman » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:17 pm

dhweather wrote:In the newest frame in the loop 0145Z - reds now circle to core of Wilma.
It's not as deep on the NW side, but it is consistently building over
there.

I strongly suspect she is a 5 again.


I agree.
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#15 Postby MiamiensisWx » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:17 pm

Latest DVORAK infra-red imagery... pretty impressive despite shear to it's west...
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#16 Postby djtil » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:20 pm

i dont really see any evidence of shear...there are other causes for warming of cloudtops but overalll the cloud pattern is symetric.

i know none was forecast during this time frame.
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#17 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:23 pm

looking at the IR, WV, DVORAK, and Vis- I don't see edviance of shear, but rather just land interacting on the NW side. Do I think it's a 5 RIGHT NOW? Yes. of course.
Pressure measuring just looking at satellite is nearly impossible, but from looking at it, I would have to say that right now it is probley around 910-912 MB. anyone want to chime in out this?
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#18 Postby dhweather » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:25 pm

I'm thinking 900-910 range right now. I wonder what TAFB/AFWA T numbers are right now.
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#19 Postby djtil » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:26 pm

no, i dont think the recent convection flareup has probably resulted in a significant pressure drop yet, will have to see if it persists and wraps around to know whether a real strengthening trend is beginning....i would bet recon finds 920+
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#20 Postby gpickett00 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:30 pm

djtil wrote:i dont really see any evidence of shear...there are other causes for warming of cloudtops but overalll the cloud pattern is symetric.

i know none was forecast during this time frame.


I think you're right, there isnt shear affecting the cdo or anything around it. Our eyes are being trained to spotting cat 5s this year. I can usually tell now it seems.
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