New Category 6 being pondered in light of recent events
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SamSagnella
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That's stupid IMO. I agree with JK 
that it will only serve to minimize (in the public's eyes) the threat of a category 5. Anyway, the difference between the damage of sustained at 160 and sustained at 190 is minimal -- total destruction in both instances. Category 5 is open-ended, and that is the way it should stay.
that it will only serve to minimize (in the public's eyes) the threat of a category 5. Anyway, the difference between the damage of sustained at 160 and sustained at 190 is minimal -- total destruction in both instances. Category 5 is open-ended, and that is the way it should stay.
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jkt21787 wrote:Not needed. All it will do is cause people to downplay lower category storms, especially cat 3's and the like which are still destructive.
Actually this is a good point because I think the cat range is based on level of damage. Anything over 155 is catastrophic, no matter how high it goes. I can see peeps blowing off a Cat 3 storm -- they do that now.
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Saffir-Simpson scale doesn't need another category because when it gets as strong as a 5 it will destroy everything anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong but the saffir-simpson scale is based on how much damage will occur, right?, once you reach the 5 level the damage potential is such where almost no structure can stand up to it, whether its a 160mph Cat. 5 or 190mph Cat. 5.
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jrtalon wrote:aerojad wrote:The same could be said of the difference between an F4 or F5 tornado.
A tornado scale is completely different since that is calculated after the fact, when someone looks at the damage and says oh this was an F3 tornado or F4 tornado.
This is true. Plus, there is a VERY DISTINCT difference in the damge between F-4 and F-5 which makes it necessary to have the different levels. F-4s leave a pile of rubble. F-5s wipe everything away but the slab.
A tornado is a much different beast than a hurricane. No need to compare their scales of damage to each other.
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If you already have the potential category 5 hurricane, you will get the rapt attention of most people in the danger area. If you then inform them that it could be one of the most powerful category 5 hurricanes in history (180+), I can't imagine any useful purpose for a higher category. It's counterproductive and counterintuitive.
A direct hit from a category 5 pretty much wreaks total devastation. And differentiating that is pretty much useless, just as an F6 tornado would be.
A direct hit from a category 5 pretty much wreaks total devastation. And differentiating that is pretty much useless, just as an F6 tornado would be.
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F5 tornadoes and Category 5 hurricanes are supposed to be reserved for the Kings of their respective Castles. Just because 2005 is a freak event (I hope) and it produced 3 or arguably 4 Category 5s doesn't mean that next year will. My point is that F5/Cat5 events are designated as such because they deserve more respect than any other weather phenomenon on the planet. If we displace these monsters to second-'best' then people will start to downplay them, which is what we already see with Category 3s and 4s (beyond my comprehension).
We may need to tweak the scales (especially the Fujita, which is completely subjective) but we need to keep F5s and Category 5s at the top because nothing strikes fear into people's hearts like hearing those words. Category 5 and F5 need to stay open-ended because people will only give them the respect they deserve if they're at the top.
We may need to tweak the scales (especially the Fujita, which is completely subjective) but we need to keep F5s and Category 5s at the top because nothing strikes fear into people's hearts like hearing those words. Category 5 and F5 need to stay open-ended because people will only give them the respect they deserve if they're at the top.
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jkt21787 wrote:Not needed. All it will do is cause people to downplay lower category storms, especially cat 3's and the like which are still destructive.
bingo!
being from the midwest, I know a lot more about tornadoes than hurricanes. but it's the same general thing. people don't realize how destructive an F2 tornado is. there was a town 30 miles away from my hometown that got demolished by an F2 tornado just a couple years back. and yet, people hear F2 tornado and think "hmmm...well aren't there 6 categories? that's not that big of deal." now this isn't a knock on the Fujita scale, as it's gold. it relates more to human nature to brush something off when there's something bigger.
it'd be the same thing with this. a cat 3 hurricane would be like the F2 tornado. in the lower half of the hurricane spectrum. it's not bad enough that there's already enough weenies out there clammoring about how if it's not a 4 or 5 or whatever that it won't be that bad. this isn't an attack on anyone, just something I've noticed this year especially. we've just been spoiled by the two strongest hurricanes in the history of July, and since then 3 of the 6 strongest in recorded history! I mean, I remember reading on another board if a 947 mb storm comes in that it's NO BIG DEAL! one of the most moronic statements ever, but anyways...
just a bit of a rant...but bottom line being this ISN'T a good idea, at least in my opinion
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