Wilma's NE turn

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Wilma's NE turn

#1 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:39 am

In my opinion, When Wilma does begin to make the NE turn, she'll make it and end up going further up the coast, Because I don't see her turn being that sharp..

I still think a landfall somewhere along the Central West coast is possible {Tampa, St Pete, Sarasota and points northward}

A landfall in Tampa or just south of Tampa would give us here a lot of real bad winds and weather too.

This is gonna be interesting..
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#2 Postby inotherwords » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:45 am

I think this is unlikely given the current models and what's expected to happen in the Yucatan.
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#3 Postby bucman1 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:45 am

Why do you feel the NE turn will not be that sharp???
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#4 Postby wxwonder12 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:50 am

Does anyone have a reasonable guess on when that n or nw direction will begin??
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#5 Postby wxcrazytwo » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:52 am

I look at Wilma as big truck making a turn. Big trucks don't make sharp turns, but rather long curvy turns...
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#6 Postby dcuevas » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:52 am

I don't know anything! But I was looking at the Navy Model and it looks like it has it coming between Tampa and Naples. Then again I could be reading this wrong.
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#7 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:59 am

I don't think her turn will be that sharp because she'll either A be a little further north when she makes it.. or B.. she's a big storm, and a big storm can't necessarily make that sharp of a turn..
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#8 Postby gtalum » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:04 am

The NHC, Joe B, and Derek Ortt's organization all seem to think such a sharp turn is quite possible. the major models all predict such a sharp turn. What specifically do you see that proves them all wrong?
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#9 Postby inotherwords » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:14 am

gtalum wrote:The NHC, Joe B, and Derek Ortt's organization all seem to think such a sharp turn is quite possible. the major models all predict such a sharp turn. What specifically do you see that proves them all wrong?

The city under their name 8-)
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#10 Postby wxcrazytwo » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:19 am

gtalum wrote:The NHC, Joe B, and Derek Ortt's organization all seem to think such a sharp turn is quite possible. the major models all predict such a sharp turn. What specifically do you see that proves them all wrong?


what is wrong is that they are over estimating the strength of the high and the strength of this trough. I don't think the trough will dig that far south to make a sudden turn to the deeeep south like they say.
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#11 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:21 am

We are not people I disagree with here lol
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#12 Postby dcuevas » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:22 am

I agree. NOT -removed-! Just being realistic about what could happen since it appears the models don't want to agree.
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#13 Postby cjrciadt » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:23 am

Remember even if the turn is that sharp any wobbles the day before landfall could change landfall and the area of the state affected greatly. How many hours did Charley wobble only 3, and changed landfall target greatly.
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#14 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:30 am

Charley's wobble definitely got everyone in the peninsula nervous..
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#15 Postby shaggy » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:34 am

this storm will likely hit the Yucatan as it has not turned as of yet and it CAN make a sharp turn.Go back and look at the track of hurricane dennis in 99' as it approached NC.It turned on a dime and moved ENE.

If you notice they have it slowing down in the Yuc channel or over the Yuc itself a slow moving system can change directions abruptly and make sharp turns so yes it can make that turn quick!
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#16 Postby Tiny » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:46 am

Hi all, when do you all think this thing will make that NE turn? As I understand it, the front coming down is like a brick wall to the cane and thats what will cause it to turn so sharply. So it will depend on when and where they meet as to where this thing is gonna make landfall, correct?
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#17 Postby skysummit » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:48 am

Tiny wrote:Hi all, when do you all think this thing will make that NE turn? As I understand it, the front coming down is like a brick wall to the cane and thats what will cause it to turn so sharply. So it will depend on when and where they meet as to where this thing is gonna make landfall, correct?


It all depends on the speed and timing of the front. Plus, just how far she makes it south will have a play in it also.
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#18 Postby Tiny » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:52 am

skysummit wrote:
Tiny wrote:Hi all, when do you all think this thing will make that NE turn? As I understand it, the front coming down is like a brick wall to the cane and thats what will cause it to turn so sharply. So it will depend on when and where they meet as to where this thing is gonna make landfall, correct?


It all depends on the speed and timing of the front. Plus, just how far she makes it south will have a play in it also.

So the big question is, when are these to weather systems expected to meet?
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#19 Postby jax » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:52 am

wxcrazytwo wrote:I look at Wilma as big truck making a turn. Big trucks don't make sharp turns, but rather long curvy turns...


the longer it takes her to make the turn... the more dry air she'll suck up.
IF wilma goes further north... she would likely be a cat 1 at most by
landfall.

Also, big trucks make sharper turns when they are going slow. At 5 mph
a big truck can make a surprisingly sharp turn. at 20-25 miles an hour...
they can't.
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#20 Postby PBGator » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:59 am

Josephine96 wrote:I don't think her turn will be that sharp because she'll either A be a little further north when she makes it.. or B.. she's a big storm, and a big storm can't necessarily make that sharp of a turn..


I think you are looking at this wrong in terms of physics. I would agree if it was a large object, not spinning and simply bound by it's mass but it's a spinning object with it's own intertia. Think of it as a large top and small top. A large can change direction as quickly as a small one. In fact I would argue the opposite that large storms can and do change directions more readily than small ones due to the fact synoptic features do not influence it as much as a smaller weaker storm. The old "Makes it's own guidance" theory some mets have.
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