What intensity was Katrina at LA landfall?

[Derek Ortt]

actually, they can have that problem, Scorpion

[TSmith274]

Oh God, here we go again....

[skysummit]

Oh God, here we go again....

LOL...these Katrina polls will likely still be going in 2007.

[jax]

Oh God, here we go again....

LOL...these Katrina polls will likely still be going in 2007.

or even 2027

[krysof]

or 2227

[vbhoutex]

BACK ON SUBJECT PLEASE!!!

[jax]

or 2227

she was a monster of all monsters...

[Normandy]

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/pub/hrd/hwind/2005/al12.2005/0829/1442/col08deg.png

ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/pub/hrd/hwind/2 ... l08deg.png

About 100 knots=115 mph. That should end the story...She was hardly a cat3!!!

What caused the damage was the cat5 surge. She was a very big storm...With a large area of cat2 or 3 winds. Katrina is looking like a cat3 with cat5 surge.

And it was so right in the fact that it peaked Katrina at 135 knots. I go with 125-130 mph.

Seriously, this wasn't 115 mph. That data is inaccurate, since when did Katrina never reach Category 5?

I heard that the the SFMR data was taken more seriously then the normal recon reduce from 850 or 700 millibars. So yes there is a chance that the nhc could down grade her to a strong cat4=155 mph. Emily also had data supporting her 153 knots but she had(Hrd) 156 mph which is cat5. Derek said when Katrina was first upgraded to a hurricane. That data is suppose to be taken much more seriously then the normal data. So I would not be suprized to see Katrina lost its title as a cat5.

But Rita was with out quastion a cat5.

Also this go's for landfall they will take this data seriously.

Ur seriously going to try and argue that Katrina was never a Cat 5? 166 KT flot level winds and 902 mbs? Come now.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

The nhc/reachers put alot of weight into that. So yes theres a chance Katrina will be found to be a cat4. Emily on those charts was slightly stronger...With recon/HRD data very close to each other=they agree.

Can you say Emily,Rita cat5s for 2005.

Unless that data is bad?

[Lowpressure]

135-140mph

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Hrd shows
Katrina 133 knots
Rita 136 knots or boarder line cat5.
ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/pub/hrd/hwind/2 ... l08deg.png

[Stormcenter]

The nhc/reachers put alot of weight into that. So yes theres a chance Katrina will be found to be a cat4. Emily on those charts was slightly stronger...With recon/HRD data very close to each other=they agree.

Can you say Emily,Rita cat5s for 2005.

Unless that data is bad?

Katrina was stronger than Rita or Emily no doubt.
I still don't think some people realize how massive and
powerful of a storm Katrina was.

[Derek Ortt]

Katrina was NOT more intense than Rita. Rita was the third most intense hurricane ever

[skysummit]

Katrina was NOT more intense than Rita. Rita was the third most intense hurricane ever

Maybe they're talking about at landfall?

[tornadochaser86]

i still say cat4 winds with cat 5 storm surge

[dhweather]

Katrina was NOT more intense than Rita. Rita was the third most intense hurricane ever

Third, fourth, that's kinda splitting hairs. They were both extremely
intense hurricanes at their peak.

[Lindaloo]

Katrina was NOT more intense than Rita. Rita was the third most intense hurricane ever

Um okay I'll bite, source please.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

ZCZC MIATCDAT3 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
HURRICANE RITA DISCUSSION NUMBER 19
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT THU SEP 22 2005

IF RITA HAS NOT PEAKED IN INTENSITY...IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS PRETTY
CLOSE TO DOING SO. THE LATEST CENTRAL PRESSURE ESTIMATED FROM
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT DATA IS 897 MB...WHICH SHOWS LITTLE CHANGE
DURING THE PAST 8 HR. THE MAXIMUM FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS SO FAR ARE
165 KT IN THE NE EYEWALL...WHICH IS ONLY SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE
161 KT OBSERVED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. THE AIRCRAFT DATA SHOWS A
INCREASINGLY STRONG OUTER WIND MAXIMUM THAT IS LIKELY THE START OF
A CONCENTRIC EYEWALL CYCLE...AND SATELLITE IMAGERY SINCE THE END OF
THE ECLIPSE PERIOD SHOWS WARMING OF THE CONVECTION NEAR THE CENTER.
BASED ON ALL OF THIS...THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS 150 KT.


Rita was much stronger then Katrina. Also Rita made landfall almost as strong as Katrina. Also there is real data supporting Rita as a 150 knot hurricane/175 mph.

[truballer#1]

I say 135-140

[Charles-KD5ZSM]

Katrina and Rita both had max sustained winds at 175 according to the rocon planes. The only difference is the pressure. Rita's pressure was lower than Katrina's at their peaks. With the bad instrumentation, the recon planes are brand new WC-130's and have up to date equipment on them. I am saying Katrina was minamal 135 at land fall. We really won't know for sure because she took out all weather stations according a map I have from when Katrina hit. The only wind readings I have, but not with me at the moment, are from the Harrison County EOC. I couldn't get any from Hancock County because their EOC went under water.