Remmants Of Tammy Redeveloping????

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Remmants Of Tammy Redeveloping????

#1 Postby TampaFl » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:44 am

In the NE Gulf the it appears that Tammy might be making a come back. Check out the NWS TLH radar. Thoughts and comments welcomed.

Robert 8-)

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.kevx.shtml


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float2-vis-loop.html
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#2 Postby beachbum_al » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:25 am

I don't know about redeveloping but it looks like it is going to be a wet day along the Gulf Coast.
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#3 Postby arlwx » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:35 am

There is definitely some spin developing.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#4 Postby Downdraft » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:07 am

There is most definitely a low level circulation. This should make it interesting today.
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#5 Postby terstorm1012 » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:00 am

could that be the upper low that was in the NE Gulf?
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#6 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:04 am

That exTammy low will be absorbed very soon by the front moving eastward.
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#7 Postby rockyman » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:06 am

For the moment, shear is fairly low and decreasing:
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#8 Postby rockyman » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:15 am

From Birmingham AFD:
MEANWHILE LOOKING TO THE SOUTH...A LOW HAS DEVELOPED IN THE GULF
OF MEXICO SOUTH OF PENSACOLA. THE REMNANTS OF TAMMY HAS MERGED
WITH THIS SYSTEM. THE MODELS MOVE THE LOW NORTH INTO THE FLORIDA
PANHANDLE TO TALLAHASSEE BY TOMORROW. THIS MOISTURE WILL STAY
AROUND THE AREA FOR THE WEEKEND. WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF MOISTURE
HAVE INCREASED CLOUD COVER THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THE MOISTURE
FINALLY MOVES OUT OF THE AREA BY MONDAY.


From Mobile AFD:
BROAD AREA OF SURFACE LOW PRESSURE JUST SOUTH OF THE
FLORIDA PANHANDLE WILL MOVE NORTHEAST UP THE ATLANTIC COAST OVER THE
WEEKEND. THE LOW SHOWS UP NICELY IN THE RADAR LOOPS ABOUT 120 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF MOBILE. AN UPPER LOW OVER THE SAME AREA WILL EVENTUALLY
LIFT OUT TO THE NORTHEAST AS ANOTHER UPPER LOW DROPS INTO NORTH
TEXAS AND MOVES EAST THEN NORTHEAST ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY...WITH AN
UPPER RIDGE BUILDING NORTH ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA BY MID WEEK.
LATEST SFC MAP SHOWS COLD FRONT
JUST TO THE WEST OF KMOB...GENERALLY FROM JUST WEST OF TUSCALOOSA AL
TO JUST S OF NEW ORLEANS. TO THE SOUTH REMNANT LOW WAS LOCATED OVER
THE ADJACENT GULF WATERS OR ABOUT 90 MILES SOUTH SOUTHEAST OF MOB.
AHEAD OF THE FRONT WIDESPREAD LIGHT RAIN WAS OCCURRING OVER MUCH OF
THE INLAND PORTIONS OF THE CWFA WHILE OFFSHORE NORTH OF THE LOW A
FEW EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP. LATEST PROGGS
PREFERABLY THE GFS BRINGS A SHALLOW COLD FRONT ACROSS THE REGION
LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT RESULTING IN CONTINUED STATUS FOR MOST AREAS
THROUGH SAT.

From Tallahassee AFD:
UPPER TROF MOVES TO MID CONUS TODAY AND THEN STALLS. ANOTHER UPPER
LOW IS MOVING ENEWD ACROSS ERN ONTARIO CANADA, WITH A SHORT WAVE
TROUGH DIVING SEWD ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS. SATELLITE PIX SHOWS A
MID/UPPER LEVEL LOW (UPPER REMNANTS OF TAMMY) SPINNING OVER NCNTRL
GULF TO MOVE NE TO ACROSS JAX CWFA NEXT FEW DAYS. COMPLEX SURFACE
PATTERN EXISTS FROM CUBA TO THE NE GULF COAST TO ACROSS THE
SOUTHEAST CONUS. LO-LEVEL REMNANTS FROM TAMMY DRIFTING WWD NEAR
SCNTRL ALA. A TROUGH EXTENDS FROM THIS FEATURE TO ANOTHER WEAK 1006
LOW N SOUTH OF PENSACOLA. THIS LARGE NON-TROPICAL LOW IS RAPIDLY
ABSORBING TAMMY. YET ANOTHER LOW IS NOW MOVING DRIFTING EWD NEAR
HAVANA. THIS COMBINATION PROVIDING A CONVEYER BELT OF SLY FLOW
ACROSS MUCH OF CWFA. NONE OF THESE FEATURES POSE AN IMMEDIATE
THREAT FOR TS DEVELOPMENT PER TPC OUTLOOK. MOST CONVECTION FROM
PENSACOLA LOW LIMITED TO THE ERN SIDE OF THE BROAD TROUGH OVER SE GA
AND THE FL PENINSULA, EXTENDING AS FAR W AS THE ERN FL BIG BEND.
12 HR SURFACE ANALYSIS COMPARISON SHOWS THAT SRN TAIL OF THIS
FRONT MOVING MUCH SLOWER THAN NRN END AS IT BEGINS TO ACT WITH
PENSACOLA LOW WHICH APPEARS TO WANT TO DEVELOP AS A WAVE ALONG
FRONT.
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#9 Postby HurricaneGirl » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:20 am

cycloneye wrote:That exTammy low will be absorbed very soon by the front moving eastward.
Lot's of spinoff rain here this morning.
Couldn't hardly see driving in this morning! :eek: :eek:

http://weather.cod.edu/analysis/loops/radloop.master.pl?Florida
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#10 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:31 am

rockyman wrote:For the moment, shear is fairly low and decreasing:


The shear is low because that is the location of the upper level cold core low. Not much shear in the center of a cold core low. Not the best place to get tropical development either :wink:

The low that is there is part of the complex sfc low that was already in the GOMEX before Tammy.
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#11 Postby skysummit » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:53 am

I don't know....I watched that low on on radar come down from Alabama all evening yesterday and last night until it finally got into the gulf. I thought it was primarily Tammy's left overs.
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#12 Postby rockyman » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:59 am

Air Force Met wrote:
rockyman wrote:For the moment, shear is fairly low and decreasing:


The shear is low because that is the location of the upper level cold core low. Not much shear in the center of a cold core low. Not the best place to get tropical development either :wink:

The low that is there is part of the complex sfc low that was already in the GOMEX before Tammy.


Thanks! I missed that one! I'm getting the impression from the NWS discos that this front might "wash out" and not push through and "clean out" the area....AFM, do you think the front is going to clear us out and get rid of all of this depressing weather here on the Alabama coast?
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#13 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:05 am

skysummit wrote:I don't know....I watched that low on on radar come down from Alabama all evening yesterday and last night until it finally got into the gulf. I thought it was primarily Tammy's left overs.


That was the mid-level circulation. I watched it too. The low level circulation in the GoM was already there. Go back and look at the sfc 24 hours ago and you will see the low was already present in the eastern GoM.

http://coolwx.com/buoydata/data/t-24/gulf.png
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#14 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:08 am

rockyman wrote:Thanks! I missed that one! I'm getting the impression from the NWS discos that this front might "wash out" and not push through and "clean out" the area....AFM, do you think the front is going to clear us out and get rid of all of this depressing weather here on the Alabama coast?


Yes...you will get the cold front. It will be modified some before you do but it will happen.
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#15 Postby skysummit » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:08 am

Air Force Met wrote:
skysummit wrote:I don't know....I watched that low on on radar come down from Alabama all evening yesterday and last night until it finally got into the gulf. I thought it was primarily Tammy's left overs.


That was the mid-level circulation. I watched it too. The low level circulation in the GoM was already there. Go back and look at the sfc 24 hours ago and you will see the low was already present in the eastern GoM.

http://coolwx.com/buoydata/data/t-24/gulf.png


Ok, I see....thanks AFM! :)
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