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#141 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:38 am

apocalypt-flyer wrote:*No official prediction*

I am still rather sure that Stan will make Landfall at Mexico's coast, however I fear that it might strengthen more drastically than the NHC anticipates. 30° SSTs, very low vertical shear. It might just as well be a strong Cat.2 finsead of that 'just Hurricane strength' prediction they make. I don't say it will explode but above-normal strengthening is not out of question.


That would not be good news for the good folks in Mexico.

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#142 Postby apocalypt-flyer » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:40 am

Definately not but let's be frank, this year just doesn't DO good news .. :( .. I hope Stan won't reach Canestrength before landfall but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't .. :(
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#143 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:43 am

This entire season should be retired in my opinion. Never in heck did I imagine a season like this.

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#144 Postby Hyperstorm » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:13 am

The "Fist"...
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#145 Postby jasons2k » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:44 am

I don't have much confidence these systems will behave according to 'plan'. It's gonna be one heck of a week for the SE, esp. the Gulf Coast.
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#146 Postby Anonymous » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:49 am

My prediction yesterday of 90 mph or 80 kts by landfall, stands the same today...and the National Hurricane Center is now predicting the same!
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#147 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:56 am

Mexico Taling a beating this year...heres another Right in the Same spot..
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#148 Postby KatDaddy » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:12 am

Want Massive Confusion with Stan.......Check out the latest WeatherUnderground Blog from Dr. Jeff Masters


Tropical Storm Stan
Tropical Storm Stan is quickly re-organizing over waters of the southwestern Gulf of Mexico. The chances for continued intensification a are high, as Stan is over 30C waters and is positioned under a large anticyclone that will provide good outflow and wind shear values below 5 knots. Stan will probably be a Category 1 hurricane as it approaches the Mexican coast on Wednesday, and a Category 2 hurricane is not out of the question.

The forecast of a landfall in Mexico between Tampico and Veracruz on Wednesday has increased in confidence since yesterday, but is still uncertain. Stan is being driven westward at 10 mph by a strong ridge of high pressure. This ridge will gradually weaken Tuesday as a weak trough of low pressure swings across the U.S., and Stan will slow down in response. All of the models are now forecasting that the ridge will remain strong enough to carry Stan all the way to the coast. However, there is still a distinct chance that Stan may stall just before the coast, or make landfall, then pop back out over the Gulf of Mexico and re-intensify. Stan may then remain in the Gulf many days, and may eventually move north and threaten the U.S.

Complicating the forecast is the fact that a tropical depression my form tomorrow along the Pacific Mexican coast in the Gulf of Tehuantepec, 100 miles south of the Gulf of Mexico. Storm-storm interactions among two tropical storms are not well understood, and the development of a new tropical depression on the other side of Mexico will make the current forecasts of Stan's motion Wednesday and beyond very dubious. And to complicate matters further, a non-tropical low pressure system is forecast to form over the Gulf of Mexico by Thursday, potentially making a set of three storms that will all interact in unpredictable ways. One positive note about this development is that the upper-level winds associated with this new non-tropical low would bring significant wind shear and weaken Stan--if he is still there. If Stan is not there, at least one model (the UKMET) suggests that this non-tropical low would meander over the Gulf of Mexico for many days, and potentially acquire tropical characteristics and become a tropical storm.
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#149 Postby skysummit » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:29 am

Wow KD. Wouldn't that be nuts...the Stan loopty-loop. That would fit in just right with this insane season.
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#150 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:33 am

Stan is becoming more and more organized... check out the infra-red imagery...
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/FLOAT/IR4/20.jpg
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#151 Postby vaffie » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:55 am

CapeVerdeWave wrote:Stan is becoming more and more organized... check out the infra-red imagery...
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/FLOAT/IR4/20.jpg


The pressure must be just CRASHING!
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#152 Postby HurricaneGirl » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:56 am

:uarrow: Big Time!
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#153 Postby skysummit » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:58 am

Stan is looking VERY impressive. Floydbuster was right on the money once again...he said once Stan gets over the water, he will explode and that's just what he's doing.
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#154 Postby mtm4319 » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:00 pm

Forward motion seems to have slowed based on the loop.
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#155 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:02 pm

How strong is Stan is the question and recon is about to provide the answer so stay tuned to the recon thread.
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#156 Postby vaffie » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:08 pm

cycloneye wrote:How strong is Stan is the question and recon is about to provide the answer so stay tuned to the recon thread.


My question is this--if this morphs tonight into tomorrow morning into a major, which is quite possible if this level of convection holds together--and there's nothing stopping it now--how does that affect it's track when all the models, global or otherwise were looking at it as a depression or weak tropical storm at best. A depression and a major are guided by very different forces. A major has enormous atmospheric height and needs a lot more force to push it west and southwest and is far more inclined to drift north or northwest than it is to go south no matter what the dynamics. And just look at the Pacific side of this image: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... IR4/20.jpg
It's Pacific companion is booming too--how will that change things? So many questions, so few answers.
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#157 Postby apocalypt-flyer » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:35 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:Stan is becoming more and more organized... check out the infra-red imagery...
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/FLOAT/IR4/20.jpg


Oh, that looks NASTY .. :eek: .. As I said, a Cat.2 would not surprise me.
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#158 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:36 pm

nice cold cloud tops. wonder what the hurricane hunters will find in there.

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#159 Postby superfly » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:36 pm

The convection is to the SE of the center, not over it. No rapid intensification until the center is covered.
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#160 Postby Starburst » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:01 pm

Well Stan is stationary and not moving those poor people on the Yucatan
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