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#41 Postby tornadochaser86 » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:04 am

yup but what does shear have to do with the storm cant it overcome that? someone please answer me
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#42 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:29 am

tornadochaser86 wrote:yup but what does shear have to do with the storm cant it overcome that? someone please answer me


Shear affects a storm's cloud pattern. Strong shear ay often cause the cloud pattern to become disorganized. That is why storms generally need a more favorable environment with less shear.
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#43 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:39 pm

*UPDATE*

There is currently 30KT to 40KT and increasing shear over Florida and the Bahamas.

Here are the latest shear charts...
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#44 Postby artist » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:53 pm

but according to the TWO seems they think winds will be more conducive in the next few days. And if it meanders where the shear is decreasing until then we may have a problem on our hands -

Atlantic Tropical Weather Outlook
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ABNT20 KNHC 021517
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT SUN OCT 2 2005

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM STAN...LOCATED OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA ABOUT 50 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF TULUM MEXICO. THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER HAS ISSUED
ITS LAST ADVISORY ON TROPICAL DEPRESSION NINETEEN...WHICH WAS
DISSIPATING ABOUT 780 MILES WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS.

A BROAD AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS...ASSOCIATED WITH A
WESTWARD-MOVING TROPICAL WAVE AND AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW...IS CENTERED
A FEW HUNDRED MILES EAST OF THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS. ALTHOUGH
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY UNFAVORABLE FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
DEVELOPMENT...THEY COULD BECOME MORE CONDUCIVE OVER THE NEXT FEW
DAYS AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES WESTWARD.

ELSEWHERE... TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH
MONDAY.

FORECASTER FRANKLIN
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#45 Postby Anonymous » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:59 pm

Thats the same thing they said for the messes that began Katrina and Rita.
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#46 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:07 pm

Well that's just great, now isn't it?
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#47 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:13 pm

If this happens a third time(Katrina, Rita the first 2) then Im gonna pop. Im really gonna watch this.

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#48 Postby skysummit » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:16 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:If this happens a third time(Katrina, Rita the first 2) then Im gonna pop. Im really gonna watch this.

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LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: I read your post too fast. I thought you said you were gonna "poop". LOL
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#49 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:19 pm

Well I could do that too, but thats a discussion for another day 8-)

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#50 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:54 pm

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*BUMP*

Shear is fluctuating around INVEST.92L... it is increasing to the east and in the eastern part of the system, is decreasing to the west just in front of the system, but is increasing further west and is starting to spread eastward over Florida into the western Bahamas. This may affect INVEST.92L's organization and intensity.

Since this thread is important but keeps falling behind to the second or third thread pages, I think it would be really wise to make this a sticky! Maybe the moderators can do that...
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#51 Postby tornadochaser86 » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:33 pm

Ok what exactly is so important about shear it doesnt affect a hurricane hurricanes form only how warm the water is wind has nothing to do with this its only important in thunderstorms
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#52 Postby tornadochaser86 » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:33 pm

Ok what exactly is so important about shear it doesnt affect a hurricane hurricanes form only how warm the water is wind has nothing to do with this its only important in thunderstorms
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#53 Postby tornadochaser86 » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:33 pm

Ok what exactly is so important about shear it doesnt affect a hurricane hurricanes form only how warm the water is wind has nothing to do with this its only important in thunderstorms
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#54 Postby curtadams » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:07 am

A hurricane is composed of thunderstorms - basically a ring of thunderstorms. Shear stretches the thunderstorms out so their top isn't above their bottom and the pressure drop due to activity at the top doesn't draw air into the bottom. The thunderstorm is less self-fueling. There's a similar effect on the hurricane as a whole. Basically strong shear means a hurricane's activity no longer fuels itself so it burns out quickly.
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#55 Postby krysof » Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:56 am

bump, looks like the shear is lessening around and in Florida, extending into the eastern gulf
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#56 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:16 pm

*BUMP*
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#57 Postby MiamiensisWx » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:29 pm

*BUMP*

Shear is increasing in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, in the eastern Bahamas and in much of the central Atlantic. The strong front that has shear with it is moving across the central U.S. into the eastern U.S. There is only a small area of decreasing shear in the western Bahamas and eastern Florida between areas of increasing shear.

Here are the latest shear charts...

SHEAR TRENDS CURRENTLY:
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CURRENT AMOUNTS OF SHEAR:
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INTENSIFICATION POTENTIAL FOR SYSTEMS FOR NEXT SEVERAL DAYS CURRENTLY:
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#58 Postby krysof » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:19 pm

bump, I noticed that wave near 10 n has a good shot at development
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#59 Postby artist » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:32 pm

latest shear tendency -

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current upper level-
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current mid level -

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current visible winds -
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#60 Postby tornadochaser86 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:49 pm

may try to develop but very strong shear aroud the area right now
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