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K9 Flu is spreading, "Watch your DOG!"
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K9 Flu is spreading, "Watch your DOG!"
http://www.hornbecks.net/hornbecks/
I will add the story here in a second, I "know" someone has posted this before but I'll be danged if I can find it..........
Dennis
I will add the story here in a second, I "know" someone has posted this before but I'll be danged if I can find it..........
Dennis
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The New Canine Influenza, Greyhound Disease, Race Flu, Equine Influenza,
Avian Flu
The New Canine Flu, which has killed so many greyhounds is now in the
domestic dog population. There is no treatment and no vaccine. It has jumped
species, (by feeding greyhounds raw horse meat, which was infected with
horse influenza), (horse influenza is avian flu, which jumped species from
birds (avian flu), to horses (horse influenza). The avian flu has now moved
to racing greyhounds and domestic dogs and the indications are that there
may be a potential problem for humans. It is deadly and it is on the loose.
It may just be a matter of time. The CDC is watching the disease.
There is no central tracking agency with report and stat capability for dogs
that will get the word out to all vets in the US.
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05130 ... ted_States.
html
The domestic dog population is at present risk.
This week on my net groups I saw many anecdotal accounts of $100,000 show
dogs dying while packed in ice and hooked up to IVs, with high temps. No one
knows what is wrong with these dogs and the vets do not know what they are
treating. I think it is Greyhound Influenza or Race Flu.
Show populations are now infected and the majority of veterinarians have
never heard of the disease. Isolated individuals know this but the country
as a whole does not. A few days after exposure at dog shows, dogs are
traveling back to their home states and infecting the local populations.
Many dogs are dying needlessly. It is not kennel cough.
The period of incubation is 2-5 days. It is airborne, can be transmitted by
inanimate objects, and clothing. Virtually all exposed will contract. The
morbidity is 80% with 20% being sub clinically affected and shedding the
virus. The course of the disease is four weeks. There are two forms, milder
and very extreme. Two weeks into the viral disease the dog looks like he is
getting over the cough and then bacterial infections become an acute
problem. Oft times the owner has reported the dog is well, only to find that
a short time later an acute bacterial infection has taken over the dog, in a
matter of hours. The owners think the disease has run its course only to
learn it hasn't gotten started yet, so dogs are dying needlessly.
My vet thinks earlier rather than later treatment with broad spectrum
antibiotics are the best way to treat the disease. With proper vet care
perhaps there will only be a mortality of 1-5%.
The information needs to go out so that all vets will know this is not
kennel cough, so they will not VAX for kennel cough while ill, and so they
can monitor beyond the two week period.
It has been almost impossible for me to understand how in the last four days
i have contacted state vets who have never heard of the new influenza, all
the while, the people with the info on the disease, refuse to release it
nationally.
The AVMA has info that will go out next month. How many will die prior to
that? I have begged and cajoled them to do this, so perhaps we are making
some headway, however, we need info to go out ASAP.
APHIS says it is not their job.
The people who are handling research on the initial outbreak in FLA., are
contacting local, (FLA) BUT not national sources to disseminate information.
Below is a link to a photo album in which i placed the FLA Veterinary Alert
and Advisory, which was put out by the FLA VET MED ASSOC., at the request of
the State Vet. It is not on the state website.
http://photobucket.com/albums/y249/citycolumbus/
In my conversations with the researchers at the U. of FLA. I was told, by
the lead researcher, who owns greyhounds, that they have no responsibility
to provide this info to other states or to other vets. (BTW, Is some of the
research funded by the gaming organizations?) (My state, GA., the state of
FLA., and three highly placed individuals at Pfizer, told me to call the
researcher.) The researcher said to me that cultures do not need to be done
on potential affecteds, and she denied that the illness is from horses,
though she is quoted in articles as applauding the Cornell researcher who
identified it as horse influenza. The FLA state vet said: "We know it came
from horses."
The researcher is working to do a contracted vaccine with " a company." She
is working on a paper. She did not want to discuss the influenza though her
name, email and number appears as the contact source on the state of FLA
Veterinary Alert and Advisory that went out to all FLA vets. I was told by
some at Pfizer that Pfizer is not the company who is helping her develop the
vaccine.
The researcher said the FLA VETERINARY ALERT AND ADVISORY should not be put
on the net. However the FLA state Vet, Dr. Thomas Holt, told me, on Fri.,
Sept 16, 2005 to put it on the net..."Feel free to use it."
Many state vets who do not know anything at all about this illness even
though the state of FLA. put out memos on the influenza in August 05 in the
state of FLA., without notifying other states.
If the researchers are correct there will be a national epidemic. When a
disease is in a mobile population an epidemic is possible. Large groupings
of dogs, such as shows, kennels, rescues, etc., are at risk.
Most vets across the country have never heard of the disease. A treatment
protocol has not been developed. They are treating it as if it is kennel
cough. All vets need to be informed about it ASAP! Many of us concerned dog
people would like to see state statistics compiled on the illness and the
eventual treatment outcomes.
Folks, this is one of the many new problems we are seeing from feeding raw
meat to dogs. Please do not do it.
Avian Flu
The New Canine Flu, which has killed so many greyhounds is now in the
domestic dog population. There is no treatment and no vaccine. It has jumped
species, (by feeding greyhounds raw horse meat, which was infected with
horse influenza), (horse influenza is avian flu, which jumped species from
birds (avian flu), to horses (horse influenza). The avian flu has now moved
to racing greyhounds and domestic dogs and the indications are that there
may be a potential problem for humans. It is deadly and it is on the loose.
It may just be a matter of time. The CDC is watching the disease.
There is no central tracking agency with report and stat capability for dogs
that will get the word out to all vets in the US.
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05130 ... ted_States.
html
The domestic dog population is at present risk.
This week on my net groups I saw many anecdotal accounts of $100,000 show
dogs dying while packed in ice and hooked up to IVs, with high temps. No one
knows what is wrong with these dogs and the vets do not know what they are
treating. I think it is Greyhound Influenza or Race Flu.
Show populations are now infected and the majority of veterinarians have
never heard of the disease. Isolated individuals know this but the country
as a whole does not. A few days after exposure at dog shows, dogs are
traveling back to their home states and infecting the local populations.
Many dogs are dying needlessly. It is not kennel cough.
The period of incubation is 2-5 days. It is airborne, can be transmitted by
inanimate objects, and clothing. Virtually all exposed will contract. The
morbidity is 80% with 20% being sub clinically affected and shedding the
virus. The course of the disease is four weeks. There are two forms, milder
and very extreme. Two weeks into the viral disease the dog looks like he is
getting over the cough and then bacterial infections become an acute
problem. Oft times the owner has reported the dog is well, only to find that
a short time later an acute bacterial infection has taken over the dog, in a
matter of hours. The owners think the disease has run its course only to
learn it hasn't gotten started yet, so dogs are dying needlessly.
My vet thinks earlier rather than later treatment with broad spectrum
antibiotics are the best way to treat the disease. With proper vet care
perhaps there will only be a mortality of 1-5%.
The information needs to go out so that all vets will know this is not
kennel cough, so they will not VAX for kennel cough while ill, and so they
can monitor beyond the two week period.
It has been almost impossible for me to understand how in the last four days
i have contacted state vets who have never heard of the new influenza, all
the while, the people with the info on the disease, refuse to release it
nationally.
The AVMA has info that will go out next month. How many will die prior to
that? I have begged and cajoled them to do this, so perhaps we are making
some headway, however, we need info to go out ASAP.
APHIS says it is not their job.
The people who are handling research on the initial outbreak in FLA., are
contacting local, (FLA) BUT not national sources to disseminate information.
Below is a link to a photo album in which i placed the FLA Veterinary Alert
and Advisory, which was put out by the FLA VET MED ASSOC., at the request of
the State Vet. It is not on the state website.
http://photobucket.com/albums/y249/citycolumbus/
In my conversations with the researchers at the U. of FLA. I was told, by
the lead researcher, who owns greyhounds, that they have no responsibility
to provide this info to other states or to other vets. (BTW, Is some of the
research funded by the gaming organizations?) (My state, GA., the state of
FLA., and three highly placed individuals at Pfizer, told me to call the
researcher.) The researcher said to me that cultures do not need to be done
on potential affecteds, and she denied that the illness is from horses,
though she is quoted in articles as applauding the Cornell researcher who
identified it as horse influenza. The FLA state vet said: "We know it came
from horses."
The researcher is working to do a contracted vaccine with " a company." She
is working on a paper. She did not want to discuss the influenza though her
name, email and number appears as the contact source on the state of FLA
Veterinary Alert and Advisory that went out to all FLA vets. I was told by
some at Pfizer that Pfizer is not the company who is helping her develop the
vaccine.
The researcher said the FLA VETERINARY ALERT AND ADVISORY should not be put
on the net. However the FLA state Vet, Dr. Thomas Holt, told me, on Fri.,
Sept 16, 2005 to put it on the net..."Feel free to use it."
Many state vets who do not know anything at all about this illness even
though the state of FLA. put out memos on the influenza in August 05 in the
state of FLA., without notifying other states.
If the researchers are correct there will be a national epidemic. When a
disease is in a mobile population an epidemic is possible. Large groupings
of dogs, such as shows, kennels, rescues, etc., are at risk.
Most vets across the country have never heard of the disease. A treatment
protocol has not been developed. They are treating it as if it is kennel
cough. All vets need to be informed about it ASAP! Many of us concerned dog
people would like to see state statistics compiled on the illness and the
eventual treatment outcomes.
Folks, this is one of the many new problems we are seeing from feeding raw
meat to dogs. Please do not do it.
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I think what was meant is that it has spread to dog by giving them raw horse meat. And now that it is in dogs it can spread dog to dog. This is scary, and hopefully it won't start in humans. Good lord that is all we need. Someone posted a link to a article about avian flu. It was some scary stuff. If it gets to human it will kill and thier is no vaccine for it yet. They have some sort of vaccine that if caught early enough can have possitve effects but there isnt enough to go around if we had a mass break out. Scary, scary.
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Miss Mary
A greyhound's life and purpose is just so sad.
A musician friend of ours was playing and volunteering at a greyhound rescue recently. He said he wanted to take them all home. But he and his wife have a very small, fenced yard. They need acres to run. Apparently when you open a door, they think you are lifting the gate to race. And they tear out of your house. Literally race.
I find it so sad they are bred for this purpose, used for this purpose and then dumped in shelters.
So don't get me started! This just adds to those so called animal lovers...ha, they have dollar signs in their eyes....grrrrr.
Okay, haven't been on this soapbox in a while. That felt good. I need to go hug my dog now.
Mary
A musician friend of ours was playing and volunteering at a greyhound rescue recently. He said he wanted to take them all home. But he and his wife have a very small, fenced yard. They need acres to run. Apparently when you open a door, they think you are lifting the gate to race. And they tear out of your house. Literally race.
I find it so sad they are bred for this purpose, used for this purpose and then dumped in shelters.
So don't get me started! This just adds to those so called animal lovers...ha, they have dollar signs in their eyes....grrrrr.
Okay, haven't been on this soapbox in a while. That felt good. I need to go hug my dog now.
Mary
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Miss Mary
GD it - I want to round up those pit bull dog fight owners and greyhound breeders, and make them race. Here ya go buddy....better hype up on coffee there. Let's see how fast you can race. Aww, having chest pains, that's a shame.
Meanwhile I'd be playing fetch with their dogs.
I'm in a major funk today...sorry for the strong language. I did disguise it.
Mary
PS - and while we're at it, let's put those circus trainers in tutu's, make them balance on a stool and watch me release their animals into an animal nature preserve.
I just wish the world was NICE!
Meanwhile I'd be playing fetch with their dogs.
I'm in a major funk today...sorry for the strong language. I did disguise it.
Mary
PS - and while we're at it, let's put those circus trainers in tutu's, make them balance on a stool and watch me release their animals into an animal nature preserve.
I just wish the world was NICE!
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Thank you so much for the tip about this flu. I will definitely keep an eye on our pups. So sad for those who have lost their animals.-
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Re: K9 Flu is spreading, "Watch your DOG!"
azsnowman wrote:http://www.hornbecks.net/hornbecks/
I will add the story here in a second, I "know" someone has posted this before but I'll be danged if I can find it..........
Dennis
If you want to get the word out, I would send the story to CNN. Also, Ophrah Winfrey loves her dogs. Perhaps she would do a short spot on her show to get the word out. It can't hurt to try. Big audiences.
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Miss Mary
Check out these adorable Greyhound Rescue Reunion pics. Especially the last one!
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 002&Ref=PH
Mary
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 002&Ref=PH
Mary
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We are animal lovers and this is so sad. My youngest volunteers at a veterinarian's clinic and she plans to attend Texas A&M and become a veterinarian. I have not yet heard of this in dogs. I'm also passing this on to a friend of mine who has shown dogs for a number of years and is now studying to become a judge. Around here, it is not the Greyhounds, but the pit bulls that concern me for our local area. Two nights ago, I was on my way home from a friend's house at around 1:00 a.m. (she lives about 15 miles into the country - no street lights) and I slammed on my brakes because a pit bull puppy, probably about 6 months old, ran in front of my car. Unfortunately, I hit it any ways, but it didn't kill it. It was the most awful sound! I pulled over and jumped out of the car and the puppy was making the most awful sounding screaming. As I tried to go attend to the pup, about 6 to 8 other pitbulls came up and surrounded it getting ready to attack. People came out of their houses. This was in a very poor and unfamiliar neighborhood and I found myself in a very uncomfortable and dangerous situation. An elderly lady yelled out to me, "Don't worry, honey...it ain't your fault!" and the owner raced over and made the other dogs leave (I stood reaallll close to him until I got back in my car). I called my friend as soon as I got home, and she said, "Yelp, they're a real problem. Next time, notice how many of those dogs have limps!" They've evidentally been reported before, but it is obviously still a problem.
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oh i hate people like that!!! 
some people just have no business owning that many dogs!!!! im so glad you didnt hurt the puppy.....that must have been an awful situation!! uggg!!! gosh i know you must have been freaking out when all those pit bulls came running towards you!!!! on the subject of pit bulls.....i used to own a white american pit bull years ago....and he was one of the sweetest but very protective of me....dogs ive ever had.....its all in how you raise them....the people that raise those dogs to fight should be thrown in the cages with them!!!!!!
some people just have no business owning that many dogs!!!! im so glad you didnt hurt the puppy.....that must have been an awful situation!! uggg!!! gosh i know you must have been freaking out when all those pit bulls came running towards you!!!! on the subject of pit bulls.....i used to own a white american pit bull years ago....and he was one of the sweetest but very protective of me....dogs ive ever had.....its all in how you raise them....the people that raise those dogs to fight should be thrown in the cages with them!!!!!!
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Arkess, I agree - there should be some very stiff penalties for people who breed anything to fight. I didn't kill the puppy, but I seriously injured it when the car hit it. I know that it at least had a broken leg. The owner took it up to the porch and I really don't know what he did with it. I know of only one person who has a pit bull that is extremely gentle. But they are a breed that I simply would not allow my children around due to the unscrupulous breeders that are basically destroying the lineage of the dogs. Yes, it was a very frightening experience. The most scary is the fact that the street was so dark that I really didn't even see the dogs approach - all of the sudden they were "just there" like ghosts.
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