Frightening Early Image From Cameron, LA

[FunkMasterB]

It's definitely Holly Beach.

Lots of pictures of Holly Beach, Cameron, Johnson's Bayou, etc here:

http://www.azstarnet.com/

Scroll down to 'Latest Pictures from the Gulf' under the story 'Perry Flies Over Texas Cities...'

Holly Beach and Johnson's Bayou are no more. Gone. Cameron is completely flooded, but some, maybe most, buildings are still standing.

[wxmann_91]

These are from Cameron:








This is from Holly Beach:



(BTW source from the above site)

[JtSmarts]

Looks like Holly Beach especially was ground zero, nothing left there.

[kevin]

Are we sure this is legit??? I mean the source was a message board which gives a source... and its hosted by the associated press and has as part of the tag WX but that looks simply incredible. Wish there was a link to a story where that image was included...

[jkt21787]

Are we sure this is legit??? I mean the source was a message board which gives a source... and its hosted by the associated press and has as part of the tag WX but that looks simply incredible. Wish there was a link to a story where that image was included...

Do you just not want to believe this? Why and how could these be faked?

[Anonymous]

its a legit question

sorry to burst some bubbles here, but it is very possible that some strms in the past weren't cat 4's. It's important to determine this so that we can make better preps in the future for a cat 3

some here could attempt to better learn atmospheric dynamics

Derek, you make a good point. After all, Audrey's central pressure at landfall was 946 mb. Unless she was the tiny size of Hurricane Charley, it's EXTREMELY difficult to believe she was carrying 145 mph winds at that time, which is what the current post-track analysis shows.

I own radar loops of Hurricane Audrey...I find it difficult that the storm was weaker than 145 mph.

[Dr. Jonah Rainwater]

Well it seems odd because all the other surge damage photos show houses swamped in 10 feet of water and missing walls and that sort of thing, but these images show an absolutely wiped landscape. With no landmarks except for what looks like the remainder of a paved road, which suggests it isn't Indonesia. But you'd think the media would be swarming over this area, since the devastation is so graphic and complete.

[JtSmarts]

its a legit question

sorry to burst some bubbles here, but it is very possible that some strms in the past weren't cat 4's. It's important to determine this so that we can make better preps in the future for a cat 3

some here could attempt to better learn atmospheric dynamics

Derek, you make a good point. After all, Audrey's central pressure at landfall was 946 mb. Unless she was the tiny size of Hurricane Charley, it's EXTREMELY difficult to believe she was carrying 145 mph winds at that time, which is what the current post-track analysis shows.

I own radar loops of Hurricane Audrey...I find it difficult that the storm was weaker than 145 mph.

If Audrey was a small storm and getting stronger at landfall I could very well see 145-946. That would make her similar to Charley was also a a tight system with 150mph winds 941 pressure.

[JtSmarts]

Well it seems odd because all the other surge damage photos show houses swamped in 10 feet of water and missing walls and that sort of thing, but these images show an absolutely wiped landscape. With no landmarks except for what looks like the remainder of a paved road, which suggests it isn't Indonesia. But you'd think the media would be swarming over this area, since the devastation is so graphic and complete.

You're right Jonah it is very strange. I haven't see many reports on this area at all. The media seems to be focused still on Houston and N.O, with a little coverage of the Port Arthur/Beaumont areas.

[jkt21787]

Well it seems odd because all the other surge damage photos show houses swamped in 10 feet of water and missing walls and that sort of thing, but these images show an absolutely wiped landscape. With no landmarks except for what looks like the remainder of a paved road, which suggests it isn't Indonesia. But you'd think the media would be swarming over this area, since the devastation is so graphic and complete.

Yeah, I understand your concern, especially since the media isn't all over it. I just don't see how it could be faked though.

It would certainly be embarrasing if these were faked since they went over the Associated Press Wires.

[simplykristi]

I do believe thise pics are real. The media has NO access to those small communities. The media is in communities like Lake Charles and Abbeville.

Kristi

[jkt21787]

What I think about is Waveland, MS. There were no reports or pictures on the media for days there either. We know now how that town fared...

[HurricaneQueen]

CNN just announced that they will be doing a live flyover of Cameron Parish with Gen. Honore (sp?) in a short while (@5pm EDT).

Lynn

[HollynLA]

Even CNN is showing similar pictures of Holly Beach on their website. It's real pictures. I've been to Holly Beach many times as a child. There were many camps right on the water and many were old wood frame camp homes. If the media would show more of this instead of focusing on downed stop lights and broke trees, more people would not want to stay near the coast during a hurricane.

[arkess7]

wow how awful ......theres no way those pic. can be fake.......why would anyone even say that?

[vacanechaser]

One thing mentioned about the SLOSH model, we saw first hand a comparison of two storms in 2004 using that model by Max at a talk he gave in Florida in June. The size of the storms eye seems to play a huge role in the surge amount as well. Charley small surge relative to the wind speed. But, when Max showed the same position with the same forward speed and the same wind speed as Charley but used Frances' eye, big jump in surge and in coverage.. Photo of Frances overlay below. So in the true scheme of things, size does matter..



So what I am saying is that maybe Audrey was a smaller storm but still had winds of 145mph. I think this helps shed some light on that.


Jesse V. Bass III
http://www.vastormphoto.com
Hurricane Intercept Research Team

[wlfpack81]

Do you just not want to believe this? Why and how could these be faked?

I've been trying to stay away from this debate b/c I don't want to flame. But let me tell you the reason jkt21787 people don't want to believe this (or initially didn't want to believe that Katrina did what she did). A lot think that b/c this is America we're immune to tremendous natural disasters. People need to wake up. Doesn't matter that we're the richest country or have the biggest and best dang military force. We're still vulnerable to get hit hard by Mother Nature!!! I don't know what it's going to take to wake people up. These same people are going to be surprised at the destruction they see when the big one finally levels San Fran to the ground.

[Thunder44]

Fox News showing new video aeirals of Southern LA that look like that this area. Some houses look like they been wiped off their foundations.

[WeatherEmperor]

Do you just not want to believe this? Why and how could these be faked?

I've been trying to stay away from this debate b/c I don't want to flame. But let me tell you the reason jkt21787 people don't want to believe this (or initially didn't want to believe that Katrina did what she did). A lot think that b/c this is America we're immune to tremendous natural disasters. People need to wake up. Doesn't matter that we're the richest country or have the biggest and best dang military force. We're still vulnerable to get hit hard by Mother Nature!!! I don't know what it's going to take to wake people up. These same people are going to be surprised at the destruction they see when the big one finally levels San Fran to the ground.

That is very very true.

<RICKY>

[gpickett00]

I remember somebody from NC was trying to compare Rita to Ophelia.