Shear now eroding Rita

[Stratosphere747]

Recon confirmed 898mb pressure..

There is no weakening as of yet, and looks about as good as it did before the eclipse.

[BReb]

"Looks like a very impressive storm after the eclipse."

No doubt, but there was a whole lot more of those deep reds at 3:15 z than there was at 6:45 z. That point is simply not arguable if you compare the images at those times.

[NorthGaWeather]

Recon confirmed 898mb pressure..

There is no weakening as of yet, and looks about as good as it did before the eclipse.

Agreed.

[camilletider]

Whats your problem? You have managed to come with answer with attitude to three people just on one page, none of whom said anything challenging to you ya troll

[NorthGaWeather]

Whats your problem? You have managed to come with answer with attitude to three people just on one page, none of whom said anything challenging to you ya troll

Are you talking to me? I hope not. The only post I responded with "attitude" was yours.

Troll? Haha. What an insult.

[bahamaswx]

The coldest cloud tops around the center warmed a little.

The overall structure improved.

I see no weakening.

715z looks even better too.

[NorthGaWeather]

The coldest cloud tops around the center warmed a little.

The overall structure improved.

I see no weakening.

715z looks even better too.

Yeah it does. Even some colder tops perhaps returning.

[NorthGaWeather]

It looks like a developing CERC may be what is causing the ragged appearance, not shear.

[camilletider]

You hope not? I couldn't care less. I came into this trying to have a little basic discussion. You had no reason to use attitude so maybe you just forgot your meds or you get your kicks on boards like these getting into arguments.

[FunkMasterB]

OK, break it up.

Let's agree on this. There is less "stuff" in the SW part of the storm. Current data indicates this has caused little to no weakening. We don't know what the cause of this lessing of "stuff" is.

Moving on.

[NorthGaWeather]

You hope not? I couldn't care less. I came into this trying to have a little basic discussion. You had no reason to use attitude so maybe you just forgot your meds or you get your kicks on boards like these getting into arguments.

I knew it. I forgot my medication. I had that strange feeling like something wasn't right. But you knew what it was and for that I thank you.

[NorthGaWeather]

OK, break it up.

Let's agree on this. There is less "stuff" in the SW part of the storm. Current data indicates this has caused little to no weakening. We don't know what the cause of this lessing of "stuff" is.

Moving on.

Your right. Its pointless to get into a squabble in a thread regarding this.

[Thunder44]

Recon definitely doesn't show a weakening storm. However it seems that convections has warmed somewhat around the center compared to couple hours ago, but still very deep. So it looks it may be at it's peak.

[camilletider]

It just so happens that they had to double mine last week. If you will explain to my less learned butt about the CERC I will gladly give you some of mine and we will split it over a bottle of Ripple.

Rita has recovered alot but now it appears an EWC is imminent. Some radar pics from the recon planes would be interesting. The outflow is still restricted but it is coming back. How does that interact with the CERC? Educate me please.

[bahamaswx]

Nah, recon never reported concentric eyewalls, and IR imagery reveals that no ERC has already, or is currently, taking place.

[NorthGaWeather]

Concentric Eyewall Replacement Cycle.

[NorthGaWeather]

Nah, recon never reported concentric eyewalls, and IR imagery reveals that no ERC has already, or is currently, taking place.

I noticed that in the VDM. Although it was mentioned a double maxima was found...although I'm too lazy to look at the ob myself.

[superfly]

Nah, recon never reported concentric eyewalls, and IR imagery reveals that no ERC has already, or is currently, taking place.

ERC is not imminent, but concentric eyewalls are starting to form as seen by the double wind maxima in the NW quad.

0715. 2449N 08750W 03042 5774 008 074 194 144 090 02314 0000000000
0716 2449N 08751W 03048 5724 009 108 168 150 121 02370 0000000000
0716. 2450N 08752W 03047 5657 008 131 138 138 139 02437 0000000100
0717 2450N 08754W 03051 5581 006 139 110 110 146 02516 0000000100
0717. 2450N 08755W 03049 5499 013 144 104 104 145 02597 0000000100
0718 2450N 08757W 03052 5428 015 134 098 098 136 02671 0000000100
0718. 2450N 08759W 03045 5370 014 125 118 118 128 02722 0000000000
0719 2451N 08800W 03048 5324 015 120 130 108 123 02771 0000000000
0719. 2451N 08801W 03050 5308 017 115 136 100 116 02789 0000000000
0720 2452N 08802W 03044 5290 019 112 134 098 113 02801 0000000000
0720. 2453N 08803W 03052 5273 023 108 128 100 109 02827 0000000000
0721 2454N 08803W 03048 5256 024 104 138 092 106 02839 0000000000
0721. 2455N 08804W 03048 5242 029 100 130 096 102 02853 0000000000
0722 2456N 08805W 03049 5227 031 096 130 094 098 02870 0000000000
0722. 2457N 08806W 03047 5214 033 094 132 088 095 02881 0000000000
0723 2458N 08807W 03048 5202 036 091 136 086 092 02894 0000000000
0723. 2500N 08808W 03050 5189 036 087 124 102 088 02909 0000000000
0724 2501N 08809W 03042 5180 036 083 120 114 085 02910 0000000000
0724. 2502N 08810W 03051 5170 037 082 126 110 083 02928 0000000000
0725 2503N 08811W 03047 5161 038 081 120 120 082 02934 0000000000
0725. 2504N 08812W 03049 5153 043 079 110 110 079 02944 0000000000
0726 2506N 08814W 03055 5145 048 084 098 098 091 02958 0000000100
0726. 2507N 08815W 03036 5129 044 097 086 086 099 02954 0000000100
0727 2508N 08816W 03055 5120 040 086 086 086 091 02982 0000000000
0727. 2509N 08817W 03045 5111 038 084 104 104 088 02981 0000000000
0728 2510N 08818W 03049 5103 037 086 132 104 086 02994 0000000000
0728. 2511N 08819W 03048 5094 041 086 124 108 087 03002 0000000000
0729 2513N 08821W 03050 5085 043 086 112 112 086 03012 0000000000
0729. 2514N 08822W 03047 5078 045 085 108 108 085 03016 0000000000
0730 2515N 08823W 03048 5069 045 084 106 106 085 03027 0000000000
0730. 2516N 08824W 03047 5063 045 085 108 108 085 03032 0000000000
0731 2517N 08825W 03050 5054 046 086 096 096 087 03043 0000000000
0731. 2519N 08827W 03047 5048 047 080 098 098 082 03047 0000000000
0732 2520N 08828W 03048 5041 048 076 102 102 078 03055 0000000000
0732. 2521N 08829W 03048 5035 050 077 106 106 078 03061 0000000000
0733 2522N 08830W 03047 5029 052 075 100 100 076 03066 0000000000
0733. 2524N 08832W 03047 5024 052 074 098 098 076 03071 0000000000
0734 2525N 08833W 03066 5017 049 070 084 084 072 03097 0000000000
0734. 2526N 08834W 03061 5012 046 075 096 096 077 03097 0000000000
0735 2527N 08835W 03064 5008 045 069 106 104 069 03104 0000000000

[camilletider]

Don't shoot me I'm just the messenger, plus you can kind of see it on the 0715z IR. If you look closely you can see seperate distinct eyewalls under the CDO. They don't appear complete but you can tell that it is two.

503
SXXX50 KNHC 220736
AF307 1618A RITA HDOB 29 KNHC
0725. 2504N 08812W 03049 5153 043 079 110 110 079 02944 0000000000
0726 2506N 08814W 03055 5145 048 084 098 098 091 02958 0000000100
0726. 2507N 08815W 03036 5129 044 097 086 086 099 02954 0000000100
0727 2508N 08816W 03055 5120 040 086 086 086 091 02982 0000000000
0727. 2509N 08817W 03045 5111 038 084 104 104 088 02981 0000000000
0728 2510N 08818W 03049 5103 037 086 132 104 086 02994 0000000000
0728. 2511N 08819W 03048 5094 041 086 124 108 087 03002 0000000000
0729 2513N 08821W 03050 5085 043 086 112 112 086 03012 0000000000
0729. 2514N 08822W 03047 5078 045 085 108 108 085 03016 0000000000
0730 2515N 08823W 03048 5069 045 084 106 106 085 03027 0000000000
0730. 2516N 08824W 03047 5063 045 085 108 108 085 03032 0000000000
0731 2517N 08825W 03050 5054 046 086 096 096 087 03043 0000000000
0731. 2519N 08827W 03047 5048 047 080 098 098 082 03047 0000000000
0732 2520N 08828W 03048 5041 048 076 102 102 078 03055 0000000000
0732. 2521N 08829W 03048 5035 050 077 106 106 078 03061 0000000000
0733 2522N 08830W 03047 5029 052 075 100 100 076 03066 0000000000
0733. 2524N 08832W 03047 5024 052 074 098 098 076 03071 0000000000
0734 2525N 08833W 03066 5017 049 070 084 084 072 03097 0000000000
0734. 2526N 08834W 03061 5012 046 075 096 096 077 03097 0000000000
0735 2527N 08835W 03064 5008 045 069 106 104 069 03104 0000000000

Concentric eyewalls are forming. Two clear wind maxima in that pass.

[camilletider]

wups, I thought you were refering in some way to what wxman_91 was talking about earlier. As you so astutely pointed out NGa, I haven't been on the board much and I only remember seeing EWC. Man, it is late.

Okay, NGa and whomever, do you really think that cycle spanked Rita and the outflow that bad?

From comments above, have major storms developed secondary wind maximas and yet not shortly gone into some kind of dynamic change in the core?