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#821 Postby spinfan4eva » Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:23 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:OK Let's see. Not that anybody was arguing with my specualtions or anything. I thought I check myself to see how my specu-cast is verfiying :wink:

Yesterday about this time I said:

1. It would start moving soon because of the ridge to the west.
2. I said it would move mostly North then NE for say 24-36 hrs
3. I said it would get close to the GA coast.
4. After 36 hrs ( maybe more) it would track into near MB in SC
5. No Loop, just wobble/drift/zag along the general course

So far:

#1 = verified
#2 = 24 hrs OK lets see what next 12 brings
#3 = Looking promising one way or another
#4 = Have to wait, but still plausible
#5 = All the models, pros, NHC, and everybody else says different....might be getting ready to eat crow on that :D

Loop looks like it will happen, but I may have just been stubborn on the more eastern track and loop back. I see it more of a slow down, drift and turn. It looks that way to me because Ophelia is moving so slow the trough will keep moving past and she won't get blocked so much as turned. I am past where I know anything about how these things behave when trapped. I will apply the same logic as to a trapped lion, and be careful because they are much more dangerous trapped.


Link to yesterdays's post page below,
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=73697&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=480


You have a looping tropical cyclone. It depends on how tight the loop is. If it is tight, I would guess carolinas. If it is a bigger loop, its floridabound IMHO
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#822 Postby LarryWx » Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:23 pm

spinfan4eva wrote:Shouldnt be a problem now being this is a Ga/SC threat verses a Fla Threat so this evac should go smoothly.........As it stands now.


I hope so, if it is needed.

Along I-16 inland well past Dublin, there is a system of RR crossing gates that was put in since the last evacuation in 1999 on the exit ramps for traffic control during evacuations. I'm assuming these would help too.
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#823 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:35 pm

The odds are certainly against a landfall in NE FL, GA, and even S.C for the most part. My guess is the ridge will be over/under estimated. Over estimated will result in a Carolina landfall and under estimated will result in a SW motion back towards Central & SFL. The models have been consistant in under estimating the ridge the past few years! The current latitude has all the makings of a N.C. storm, IMO!
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#824 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:42 pm

Blown_away wrote:The odds are certainly against a landfall in NE FL, GA, and even S.C for the most part. My guess is the ridge will be over/under estimated. Over estimated will result in a Carolina landfall and under estimated will result in a SW motion back towards Central & SFL. The models have been consistant in under estimating the ridge the past few years! The current latitude has all the makings of a N.C. storm, IMO!


I think you are right on on that. In comparing teh GFS to the CMC and/or NOGAPS, the exact difference you stated is evident, albeit into Charleston not FL.

I would add that if you want to make folks here nervous...start talking about a Charleston landfall, then move it to MB. SC. That means between Wilmington and the OuterBanks. a la:

Bertha
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#825 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:56 pm

wx247 wrote:No one has posted the 8 am advisory??? :eek: :lol:


I was asleep. :D

I was barely up in time for the 11am advisory... :lol:
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#826 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:03 pm

Duh... there is no 2pm advisory.

*smacks forehead*

:roll: :oops:
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#827 Postby feederband » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:05 pm

Brent wrote:Duh... there is no 2pm advisory.

*smacks forehead*

:roll: :oops:


Along with a bunch of others :D
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#828 Postby deltadog03 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:06 pm

are they milling over TS vs Cane? :lol: :lol:
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#829 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:15 pm

No... there are no warnings/watches, so there's no intermediate advisories.
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there will be no 2 p.m. advisory

#830 Postby oceanguync » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:16 pm

no warnings or watches at this time so next advisory is at 5 p.m.
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#831 Postby deltadog03 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:17 pm

ok, im smacking myself in the head too... :lol:
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#832 Postby Frank2 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:18 pm

Thanks for reminding us...

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#833 Postby NCHurricane » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:26 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:I would add that if you want to make folks here nervous...start talking about a Charleston landfall, then move it to MB. SC. That means between Wilmington and the OuterBanks. a la:

Bertha
Fran
Bonnie
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Isabelle


Oh yeah, I always look for a hit here if the forecast track goes to MB. I don't know why, but it always seems go further north than that. :?:
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#834 Postby LarryWx » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:38 pm

After having three runs in a row of hitting extreme NE FL, the FRI 12Z ECMWF has it about 50 miles further north than its prior run with it hitting Brunswick at 12Z MON. Keep in mind the ECMWF's recent slight warm bias that may tend to make ridges a bit too strong. Then it crawls it up the GA/lower SC coast days 4-7. Here is the 72 hour surface map:

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#835 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:47 pm

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WHXX01 KWBC 091816
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DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO TPC/NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONES.

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER NORTH ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

HURRICANE OPHELIA (AL162005) ON 20050909 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
050909 1800 050910 0600 050910 1800 050911 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 29.8N 78.6W 30.9N 77.9W 31.2N 77.4W 30.9N 77.4W
BAMM 29.8N 78.6W 30.4N 78.4W 30.5N 78.5W 30.1N 78.7W
A98E 29.8N 78.6W 30.6N 77.8W 31.1N 76.8W 31.1N 76.7W
LBAR 29.8N 78.6W 30.6N 77.6W 32.0N 76.2W 32.9N 74.1W
SHIP 65KTS 70KTS 74KTS 77KTS
DSHP 65KTS 70KTS 74KTS 77KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
050911 1800 050912 1800 050913 1800 050914 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 30.4N 77.3W 30.3N 76.9W 31.9N 76.0W 35.3N 74.2W
BAMM 29.6N 78.7W 29.1N 77.4W 31.5N 75.0W 35.7N 73.9W
A98E 31.0N 76.4W 31.3N 76.5W 32.8N 76.1W 37.2N 75.0W
LBAR 33.4N 69.8W 33.9N 58.0W 33.6N 48.5W .0N .0W
SHIP 80KTS 79KTS 74KTS 65KTS
DSHP 80KTS 79KTS 74KTS 36KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 29.8N LONCUR = 78.6W DIRCUR = 30DEG SPDCUR = 5KT
LATM12 = 28.9N LONM12 = 79.3W DIRM12 = 20DEG SPDM12 = 4KT
LATM24 = 28.6N LONM24 = 79.5W
WNDCUR = 65KT RMAXWD = 15NM WNDM12 = 55KT
CENPRS = 983MB OUTPRS = 1012MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 60NM RD34SE = 60NM RD34SW = 60NM RD34NW = 50NM
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#836 Postby CronkPSU » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:59 pm

man, the LBAR refuses to let go of the way way way way out to sea theory
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#837 Postby feederband » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:06 pm

Seems like its been awhile since I've used this radar...Maybe since beginning of last year..

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p ... kclx.shtml
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#838 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:10 pm

After viewing most models it looks like a SC or Ga problem. Most are taking into SC and dissipating. No more coast huggers. Starting to get a little more comfortable up here, but with reserve of course. Plus JB says same thing (lighting match) and he will still get his Carolinas hit as predicted last month (fanning flames).
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#839 Postby tallbunch » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:14 pm

I just looked up the 10 day forecast for Hilton Head Island, it calls for 30% chance of rain on Tuesday and Wednesday...not even breezy.
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#840 Postby Skywatch_NC » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:14 pm

OuterBanker wrote:After viewing most models it looks like a SC or Ga problem. Most are taking into SC and dissipating. No more coast huggers. Starting to get a little more comfortable up here, but with reserve of course. Plus JB says same thing (lighting match) and he will still get his Carolinas hit as predicted last month (fanning flames).


Not sure what you mean by the lighting match and fanning flames.

Looks like Joe B agrees with NHC for now...as NHC has it going to SC.
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