Despite katrina, how lucky the United States is.

[seflcane]

I dont want to sound harsh here, or morbid but despite the devestation and loss of life katrina has cause things could have been much worse with katrina, and other past storms as well. Here are some other possible outcomes of landfalling hurricanes that could be just as bad or worse then katrina. I just want people to realize that there are alot of other dangers when it comes to landfalling intense hurricanes.

Example one is a storm the size of Mitch at cat4 or cat5 intensity.

A cat4 or cat5slamming just north of miami with major hurricane force winds covering most of Dade, and Broward County would be hit with winds over 115 mph and maybe up to cat5 sustained winds. storm surge would be massive and the loss of life would be HUGE. While most I'd doubt would be victims of storm surge most would perish from flying glass, objects being thrown in the air at speeds upwards of 180 mph.

Another Another worse case is a storm such as the Labor Day storm just 36-48 hours out as a weak TS such as Katrina was before Florida landfall all of a sudden bombs out to a 160-200 mph monster giving residents little time to leave. With this kinds of winds and most people stuck on the roads and unable to leave people would get crushed, impaled to death due to not being able to get to a shelter, or enough time to prepare their homes.

The third and worse outcome possible that is ignored time after time is the Tampa area.

We have a storm like Ivan which at one time was forecasted to move in as a cat4 or cat5 near the tampa area. Dr. Lyons always talks about the Tampa area being a very high rish for storm surge due to the shallow waters of Tampa bay. Although a direct hit from a major hurricane in Tampa is very very rare there is always a chance. Tampa bay, St. Petersburg is kind similar to New Orleans. A large population area along a high flooding prone area.

While our main focus for right now is the suffering going on in the South along Mississippi, and SE LA we must not forget over the next few weeks, and first half of October that this is the most active time for landfalls in Florida and the reality is there that something as bad as Andrew, katrina or even worse can happen. With the pattern change the last two seasons causing more storms to strike the US and Florida the Gov and public must be prepared and realize a large scale hurricane disaster could happen in Florida, New York, Houston and other areas.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I 100 percent agee. Good read!

[seflcane]

I 100 percent agee. Good read!

Also to add katrina moving into SE Florida. They were VERY lucky katrina took more time to organize and started to bomb right at landfall. Another 12-18 hours over water they would have had at least a cat3 hurricane maybe more. The patter was so favorable!!

[fci]

I hope that the Emergency Operation Managers in EVERY hurricane prone area has mapped out The Plan in case their area gets hit by a Cat 4 or Cat 5.

This includes our Federal Government who clearly dropped the ball, in my opinion; on Katrina; State Governments and Local Governments.

LET'S ALL LEARN LESSONS FROM THE CURRENT TRAGEDY!!!!

NO, this is NOT an invitation to debate the Federal Governments' reaction time.
It is well documented and well argued so if you do not agree with my making the statement, then just ignore me and blow me off as a political partisan (which I am not, but if it makes you happy....)

[seflcane]

I hope that the Emergency Operation Managers in EVERY hurricane prone area has mapped out The Plan in case their area gets hit by a Cat 4 or Cat 5.

This includes our Federal Government who clearly dropped the ball, in my opinion; on Katrina; State Governments and Local Governments.

LET'S ALL LEARN LESSONS FROM THE CURRENT TRAGEDY!!!!

NO, this is NOT an invitation to debate the Federal Governments' reaction time.
It is well documented and well argued so if you do not agree with my making the statement, then just ignore me and blow me off as a political partisan (which I am not, but if it makes you happy....)

IMO Central and South Florida, and Texas are at a greater risk. At least in most cased over the last 25 years storms have weakend in the northern gulf becuase of the increase in river runoff causing less heat content. Maybe from a population boom? But South Florida is the greatest risk I think.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Just think if it would of holded at its earlier 175 mph. In made landfall about 50 miles ot the west right through New orleans. There would not be a building standing or house. There also would be tens of thousands of people dead. This hurricane would of been a Major 150 miles inland.

So yes Katrina could of been stronger. But just like Mitch weaken. But still caused great amounts of death.

[seflcane]

Just think if it would of holded at its earlier 175 mph. In made landfall about 50 miles ot the west right through New orleans. There would not be a building standing or house. There also would be tens of thousands of people dead. This hurricane would of been a Major 150 miles inland.

So yes Katrina could of been stronger. But just like Mitch weaken. But still caused great amounts of death.

The same as Camille. Houses would be exploding and people would ahve no where to go with water rushing in except to be stuck out in it with flying missles.

[wxmann_91]

Remember that Doomsday thread about New York City???

And don't forget about Galveston/Houston.

Hey, then why not add a true Cat 5 hurricane making landfall over New Orleans (this year, causing a colossal catastrophe) and just to the north of Tampa? Miami too.

Any hurricane making landfall in LA would exacerbate the problem with the sinking land in the area.

[seflcane]

Remember that Doomsday thread about New York City???

And don't forget about Galveston/Houston.

Hey, then why not add a true Cat 5 hurricane making landfall over New Orleans (this year, causing a colossal catastrophe) and just to the north of Tampa? Miami too.

Any hurricane making landfall in LA would exacerbate the problem with the sinking land in the area.

It's just very very hard to get a major hurricane into NYC. Even a year like this with above normal SST NYC area was still just under 80 degrees sst. Even if a 150 mph storm just off NC coast was moving pretty good clip it would not make it at more then a moderate cat3 or weak one. We see what happens with other storms the past couple years when they move over just slightly cooler waters. You just cant get a cat4 or 5 moving over sst in the 70s to sustain its self. Plus the shear too from it dont forget. even a cat1 or cat2 over New York city would be fatal cause of all the high rises. A cat3 would flood the city. A cat4 or 5 is just not possible cause of little heat content north of Virgina.