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are any of you listening to this???
"I have a mission for the Corp of Engineers, over"
Canyou find a Corp of Engineer guy to call 225 915-****
trying to find Engineer guy none available
"need aviation"
"Equipment sitr for laoding and unloading Chinooks"
Miscommunications
Mission is FROM the Corp of Engineers to them
Transport a general??? Who handles it??? Eagle team or Pelican Team
Have Sgt Major Huff contact Pelican team.
The boxes going to Tangier outlet mall, if we supply the military drivers, will civilian drivers take them further??
Seems NO ONE knows what is going on......
Where is the Tangier outlet there??????? Is it being used as a base???
"I have a mission for the Corp of Engineers, over"
Canyou find a Corp of Engineer guy to call 225 915-****
trying to find Engineer guy none available
"need aviation"
"Equipment sitr for laoding and unloading Chinooks"
Miscommunications
Mission is FROM the Corp of Engineers to them
Transport a general??? Who handles it??? Eagle team or Pelican Team
Have Sgt Major Huff contact Pelican team.
The boxes going to Tangier outlet mall, if we supply the military drivers, will civilian drivers take them further??
Seems NO ONE knows what is going on......
Where is the Tangier outlet there??????? Is it being used as a base???
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Here is a transcript from earlier:
Earlier the scanner was reporting a structure fire in the Superdome.
Some random snippets heard on another board where people are also monitoring this scanner:
"tempers are starting to rise"
"...to push them the distance back you're talking would cause a riot.."
"A10 calling for all MP's to be pulled back over for two security cordons"
"We need every solider to get back here and re-enforce the perimeter"
"Looking for those second set of buses. We need 'em"
(summary)People are being barred from the area aroundthe NO center and Fema building.
(summary)The soldiers are setting up a new perimeter.
"gather up all bulldogs!"
(summary)Firemen seem to be arriving on scene, finally.
(summary)Requesting GUARDS for the firefighters now before they'll go in.
"everything is under control at this time"
"Tell the firemen to turn around and leave, over."
"hk1 to hk87"
"hk1 to hk87"
"a10 to b12"
"Mumble"
"Defender 6, Bulldog 6"
[unintelligble]
"a10 to b12"
"Bulldog 3 this is bulldog 6"
"44-0"
[conversation, 200 more people have arrived... "we've got to start talking to these people and getting them organized"]
"firemen walking into the hotel".........
"comondeering highwater equipment....."
"tell the firement to turn around and leave...."
"come again?"
"tell them we can not secure them, turn around and leave, we are not addressing the fire in the superdome at this time"
"They haven't left yet!"
"move the crowd"
"defender 6,defender 6 this is bulldog3, over"
"bulldog3 who are you trying to reach, over"
"should be about 12 mile with the buses"
"bulldog 3, defender 6 over"
"sitrep?, over"
"fire command have a couple of fireman here, the fire is under control, but it will take a couple of hours to get the smoke out of the superdome over"
"we need to get those firemen out of here, we can't control this situation for very much longer"
"will do, will do, i'll start working that right now but be advised that the firemen are still up in there working the fire, over"
"that's what i wanted you to do"
And that was the end of the mini-crisis.
Earlier the scanner was reporting a structure fire in the Superdome.
Some random snippets heard on another board where people are also monitoring this scanner:
"tempers are starting to rise"
"...to push them the distance back you're talking would cause a riot.."
"A10 calling for all MP's to be pulled back over for two security cordons"
"We need every solider to get back here and re-enforce the perimeter"
"Looking for those second set of buses. We need 'em"
(summary)People are being barred from the area aroundthe NO center and Fema building.
(summary)The soldiers are setting up a new perimeter.
"gather up all bulldogs!"
(summary)Firemen seem to be arriving on scene, finally.
(summary)Requesting GUARDS for the firefighters now before they'll go in.
"everything is under control at this time"
"Tell the firemen to turn around and leave, over."
"hk1 to hk87"
"hk1 to hk87"
"a10 to b12"
"Mumble"
"Defender 6, Bulldog 6"
[unintelligble]
"a10 to b12"
"Bulldog 3 this is bulldog 6"
"44-0"
[conversation, 200 more people have arrived... "we've got to start talking to these people and getting them organized"]
"firemen walking into the hotel".........
"comondeering highwater equipment....."
"tell the firement to turn around and leave...."
"come again?"
"tell them we can not secure them, turn around and leave, we are not addressing the fire in the superdome at this time"
"They haven't left yet!"
"move the crowd"
"defender 6,defender 6 this is bulldog3, over"
"bulldog3 who are you trying to reach, over"
"should be about 12 mile with the buses"
"bulldog 3, defender 6 over"
"sitrep?, over"
"fire command have a couple of fireman here, the fire is under control, but it will take a couple of hours to get the smoke out of the superdome over"
"we need to get those firemen out of here, we can't control this situation for very much longer"
"will do, will do, i'll start working that right now but be advised that the firemen are still up in there working the fire, over"
"that's what i wanted you to do"
And that was the end of the mini-crisis.
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Roxy wrote:caneseddy wrote:Special forces team? to be sent to Charity Hospital
To investigate reports of armed persons in the hospital?
I almost can't believe what I am hearing...that's why the question marks.
NO NO, to evacuate it I think........They have been waiting with patients to evacuate. The Chief of Staff called for info......
Now.......hold on one for Chief of Staff.......which one???????hhmmm
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Charity Hospital is in dire straits....from CNN:
AP) -- Doctors at two desperately crippled hospitals in New Orleans called The Associated Press Thursday morning pleading for rescue, saying they were nearly out of food and power and had been forced to move patients to higher floors to escape looters.
"We have been trying to call the mayor's office, we have been trying to call the governor's office ... we have tried to use any inside pressure we can. We are turning to you. Please help us," said Dr. Norman McSwain, chief of trauma surgery at Charity Hospital, the largest of two public hospitals.Charity is across the street from Tulane University Medical Center, a private facility that has almost completed evacuating more than 1,000 patients and family members, he said.
No such public resources are available for Charity, which has about 250 patients, or University Hospital several blocks away, which has about 110 patients.
"We need coordinated help from the government," McSwain said.
He described horrific conditions.
"There is no food in Charity Hospital. They're eating fruit bowl punch and that's all they've got to eat. There's minimal water," McSwain said.
"Most of their power is out. Much of the hospital is dark. The ICU (intensive care unit) is on the 12th floor, so the physicians and nurses are having to walk up floors to see the patients."
Dr. Lee Hamm, chairman of medicine at Tulane University, said he took a canoe from there to the two public hospitals, where he also works, to check conditions.
"The physicians and nurses are doing an incredible job, but there are patients laying on stretchers on the floor, the halls were dark, the stairwells are dark. Of course, there's no elevators. There's no communication with the outside world," he said.
"We're afraid that somehow these two hospitals have been left off ... that somehow somebody has either forgotten it or ignored it or something, because there is no evidence anything is being done."
Hamm said there was relief Wednesday as word traveled throughout University Hospital that the National Guard was coming to evacuate them, but the rescue never materialized.
"You can imagine how demoralizing that was," he said.
Throughout the entire city, the death, destruction and depravity deepened even as the hurricane waters leveled off. (Watch a report on the scenes of death and despair on the streets of New Orleans -- 4:36)
"Hospitals are trying to evacuate," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. "At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking pot shots at police and at helicopters, telling them, 'You better come get my family."'
Richard Zuschlag, president of Acadian Ambulance Service Inc., described the chaos at a suburban hospital.
"We tried to airlift supplies into Kenner Memorial Hospital late last evening and were confronted by an unruly crowd with guns, and the pilots refused to land," he said.
"My medics were crying, screaming for help. When we tried to land at Kenner, my pilots got scared because 100 people were on the helipad and some of them had guns. He was frightened and would not land."
Zuschlag said 65 patients brought to the roof of another city hospital, Touro Infirmary, for evacuation Wednesday night spent the night there. The hospital's generator and backup generator had failed, and doctors decided it was safer to keep everyone on the roof than carry fragile patients back downstairs.
"The hospital was so hot that with no rain or anything, they were better off in the fresh air on the roof," he said.
When patients have been evacuated, where to take them becomes the next big decision.
"They're having to make strategic decisions about where to send people literally in midair," said John Matessino, president of the Louisiana Hospital Association. "It's a very difficult thing to prioritize when they're all a priority."
Knox Andress, an emergency nurse who is regional coordinator for a federal emergency preparedness grant covering the state, said it's impossible to underestimate the critical role hospitals are playing for anyone left in the city.
"They're running out of their medications, they're running out of money. They're having social issues and where do they go? They go to the hospital. The hospital is the backbone of the community because the lights are always on," he said.
When hospitals can't take care of people and the rescuers need rescued, there's no social fabric left, Andress said.
Hospitals weren't the only facilities with troubles.
Louisiana Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu, who has been working with search and rescue, confirmed that 30 people died at a nursing home in St. Bernard Parish and 30 others were being evacuated. He did not give any further details.
Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
sorry if this has already been posted. I can't believe this.
AP) -- Doctors at two desperately crippled hospitals in New Orleans called The Associated Press Thursday morning pleading for rescue, saying they were nearly out of food and power and had been forced to move patients to higher floors to escape looters.
"We have been trying to call the mayor's office, we have been trying to call the governor's office ... we have tried to use any inside pressure we can. We are turning to you. Please help us," said Dr. Norman McSwain, chief of trauma surgery at Charity Hospital, the largest of two public hospitals.Charity is across the street from Tulane University Medical Center, a private facility that has almost completed evacuating more than 1,000 patients and family members, he said.
No such public resources are available for Charity, which has about 250 patients, or University Hospital several blocks away, which has about 110 patients.
"We need coordinated help from the government," McSwain said.
He described horrific conditions.
"There is no food in Charity Hospital. They're eating fruit bowl punch and that's all they've got to eat. There's minimal water," McSwain said.
"Most of their power is out. Much of the hospital is dark. The ICU (intensive care unit) is on the 12th floor, so the physicians and nurses are having to walk up floors to see the patients."
Dr. Lee Hamm, chairman of medicine at Tulane University, said he took a canoe from there to the two public hospitals, where he also works, to check conditions.
"The physicians and nurses are doing an incredible job, but there are patients laying on stretchers on the floor, the halls were dark, the stairwells are dark. Of course, there's no elevators. There's no communication with the outside world," he said.
"We're afraid that somehow these two hospitals have been left off ... that somehow somebody has either forgotten it or ignored it or something, because there is no evidence anything is being done."
Hamm said there was relief Wednesday as word traveled throughout University Hospital that the National Guard was coming to evacuate them, but the rescue never materialized.
"You can imagine how demoralizing that was," he said.
Throughout the entire city, the death, destruction and depravity deepened even as the hurricane waters leveled off. (Watch a report on the scenes of death and despair on the streets of New Orleans -- 4:36)
"Hospitals are trying to evacuate," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. "At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking pot shots at police and at helicopters, telling them, 'You better come get my family."'
Richard Zuschlag, president of Acadian Ambulance Service Inc., described the chaos at a suburban hospital.
"We tried to airlift supplies into Kenner Memorial Hospital late last evening and were confronted by an unruly crowd with guns, and the pilots refused to land," he said.
"My medics were crying, screaming for help. When we tried to land at Kenner, my pilots got scared because 100 people were on the helipad and some of them had guns. He was frightened and would not land."
Zuschlag said 65 patients brought to the roof of another city hospital, Touro Infirmary, for evacuation Wednesday night spent the night there. The hospital's generator and backup generator had failed, and doctors decided it was safer to keep everyone on the roof than carry fragile patients back downstairs.
"The hospital was so hot that with no rain or anything, they were better off in the fresh air on the roof," he said.
When patients have been evacuated, where to take them becomes the next big decision.
"They're having to make strategic decisions about where to send people literally in midair," said John Matessino, president of the Louisiana Hospital Association. "It's a very difficult thing to prioritize when they're all a priority."
Knox Andress, an emergency nurse who is regional coordinator for a federal emergency preparedness grant covering the state, said it's impossible to underestimate the critical role hospitals are playing for anyone left in the city.
"They're running out of their medications, they're running out of money. They're having social issues and where do they go? They go to the hospital. The hospital is the backbone of the community because the lights are always on," he said.
When hospitals can't take care of people and the rescuers need rescued, there's no social fabric left, Andress said.
Hospitals weren't the only facilities with troubles.
Louisiana Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu, who has been working with search and rescue, confirmed that 30 people died at a nursing home in St. Bernard Parish and 30 others were being evacuated. He did not give any further details.
Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
sorry if this has already been posted. I can't believe this.
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