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New Orleans=Atlantis

#1 Postby dlisted » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:26 pm

After all the people recovery efforts are completed, the politicos need to step back and make a very difficult decision--allow mother nature to take back her land.

New Orleans is 250 year accident. Because of its location, sinkage, and the mighty Mississippi--NO will face repeated destruction--only to be faced with certain collapses of its levees and flooding. Why should the rest of the country be forced to pay to rebuild a city that we know will be destroyed within 30-40 years, if not sooner.

NO is just like Venice--both are sinking into the ocean/swamp--

In a different era, a city like NO would have been abandoned. As harsh as this is, NO SHOULD NOT BE REBUILT.
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#2 Postby ericinmia » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:27 pm

I agree completely. The area needs to be closed to deveopment. And returned to nature.

Put the tens of billions of aid into starting over somewhere else.
-Eric
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#3 Postby Rob Beaux » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:32 pm

i going to refrain from tearing you a new one on here so I dont get banned...

BUT....why should I pay for someone to live on an island off of Florida or Alabama, A tornado area in Kansas, near a fault in California waht about a terrorist target liek NYC.. What gives you or anyone the right to decide what areas shoud be rebuilt...maybe Louisiana should give the nation the finger and really show you guys what we are worth.
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#4 Postby soonertwister » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:33 pm

I agree that NOLA should not be rebuilt as it was, but we are intelligent human beings, and we can put a city anywhere we damn well please.

Design a better NOLA with the same character. The Big Easy isn't just a city, it is an international cultural icon.

There's absolutely no way I would support abandoning that city. And I don't think it will happen, ever.
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#5 Postby ericinmia » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:35 pm

I don't support anyone living on the side of a mountain that has landslides, an island on miami beach (parts of my family), a flood zone, A RIVER DELTA, etc.

I don't believe they should have EVER built there, and the continual building was a severe ongoing mistake. It is BELOW sea level and sinking? Built on suilt build up in a river delta that is meant to flood.

I just can't understnad anyone that thinks that is a reasonably place to build.... let alone REBUILD after something like this.
-Eric
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#6 Postby TSmith274 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:35 pm

ericinmia wrote:I agree completely. The area needs to be closed to deveopment. And returned to nature.

Put the tens of billions of aid into starting over somewhere else.
-Eric

Instead of doing that, which has me fuming that you'd even suggest it, why not invest in a levee system that is adequate? Seriously, we as Americans are capable of building a reliable system to protect the city for future generations.
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#7 Postby cswitwer » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:37 pm

Don't we already have a flame war thread on this?

Do we really need to have another?

Can we save it at least until after the bodies are counted, identified and put to rest?

Do we have enough dignity at least for that?
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#8 Postby ericinmia » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:39 pm

TSmith274 wrote:
ericinmia wrote:I agree completely. The area needs to be closed to deveopment. And returned to nature.

Put the tens of billions of aid into starting over somewhere else.
-Eric

Instead of doing that, which has me fuming that you'd even suggest it, why not invest in a levee system that is adequate? Seriously, we as Americans are capable of building a reliable system to protect the city for future generations.


This levee system was not able to take a high cat1 storm.... do you know what it would take to completely make it cat5 proof. I can't believe you are suggesting that.

River deltas are made to be changed yearly based on water output and storms, they are not solid structures, not places to build.

I feel terrible for these people, don't get me wrong... but i don't want to see this happen again in a few years, and loose all this life ALL OVER AGAIN. :(
-Eric
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#9 Postby Zadok » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:43 pm

Don't write off New Orleans yet! What about all the people the booze halls and gambling joints! These are things that can't be replaced! Image
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#10 Postby cswitwer » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:46 pm

LET ME POST THIS AGAIN



Don't we already have a flame war thread on this?

Do we really need to have another?

Can we save it at least until after the bodies are counted, identified and put to rest?

Do we have enough dignity at least for that?
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#11 Postby yzerfan » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:46 pm

There have been cases when very small towns have been relocated away from the Mississippi before because of constant flooding. The problem here is not only sheer size, but also so much of what makes New Orleans unique is the architecture.
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#12 Postby milankovitch » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:47 pm

TSmith274 wrote:
ericinmia wrote:I agree completely. The area needs to be closed to deveopment. And returned to nature.

Put the tens of billions of aid into starting over somewhere else.
-Eric

Instead of doing that, which has me fuming that you'd even suggest it, why not invest in a levee system that is adequate? Seriously, we as Americans are capable of building a reliable system to protect the city for future generations.


This could have been prevented with an adaquate levee system. There is one proposed levee system for the city to "hurricane proof" it, a 30ft levee completely surrounding the city. It would cost billions to build which is why it was not built. However, New Orleans is too prime of real estate to abandon but that doesn't mean building the city vulnerable again.
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#13 Postby shaggy » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:49 pm

not to be cold or heartless but they have been replaced by destruction and death beyond anyones worst case with the exception of the evac first.If katrina had been forecast to hit somewhere else and made a sharp turn into NOLA thats the only thing that could have been worse.
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#14 Postby gpickett00 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:49 pm

I also think we should just let nature have New Orleans back, we dont want another generation to have to deal with this again
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#15 Postby cswitwer » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:52 pm

WHERE IS A MOD WHEN YOU NEED A THREAD LOCKED???

THERE IS ALREADY ONE OF THESE THREADS.

WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER ONE.

CERTAINLY NOT WHEN THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
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#16 Postby scostorms » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:55 pm

This is a real important matter. They plan to rebuild, just to have it destroyed again. Lets call Larry King Live tonight, 1-800-676-2100 to say this if you want. I see no reason why they should rebuild, it's almost murder to allow people back in. The smart ones will never return.
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