Tulane University Hospital surrounded by water

Stratosphere747 · #21 Postby **Stratosphere747** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:12 am

Flood waters still rising, Red Cross expects "largest recovery operaton" ever

By Mark Schleifstein
Staff writer

Federal Emergency Management Agency spokesman Marty Bahamond, stationed at the New Orleans Emergency Operations Center, said a 100-to-200-meter section of levee and wall failed on the eastern side of the 17th Street Canal at the Hammond Highway bridge, which connects Buck Town in Metairie and West Lakeview in New Orleans.

Bahamond said the breach is a major factor in flooding that now covers an area bounded by the 17th Street Canal, the Industrial Canal and Interstate 10, and is spreading.

Areas flooded include the neighborhoods of Gentilly, Lakeview, City Park and Mid City, he said.

Determining exactly where the water from the 17th Street Canal is going is difficult, but its causing floodwaters to rise in that entire area late Monday.

jopatura · #22 Postby **jopatura** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:16 am

There's a canal called "17th Street Canal".

EDIT: Superfly's map is a lot better.

I believe that big space in the middle of the 17th Street Canal is the levee

superfly · #23 Postby **superfly** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:19 am

Highlighted in yellow is where the break was. 17th street canal is the canal separating Orleans and Jefferson Parish.

#24 Postby **TSmith274** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:20 am

The water level in the 17th street canal rises above houses after a normal thunderstorm. This hurricane broke the walls of it. I'm sick.

MomH · #25 Postby **MomH** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:30 am

Just read something on the crawl on WDSU that said the levee at Industrial Canal in St. Bernard Ph. had an area of 4-7 feet where water was overflowing and they could not see the top of the canal there. Don't know how old the word might be.

NorthGaWeather · #26 Postby **NorthGaWeather** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:42 am

Just re heard the interview. The woman said the water was in the first floor and they could see white caps on Canal street.

#27 Postby **SouthFloridawx** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:43 am

in case you didn't know where the hospital is....

Kilgore Trout · #28 Postby **Kilgore Trout** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:45 am

Are we to assume that the entire area from the break to the hospital is now flooded? Yikes.

MKT2005 · #29 Postby **MKT2005** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:45 am

southfloridawx2005 wrote:

in case you didn't know where the hospital is....

Seems very close to the superdome and french quarter, wonder if they are flooded to now.

Kilgore Trout · #30 Postby **Kilgore Trout** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:48 am

From a forum on NOLA I am reading that the canal itself has been breached on the Orleans side only.

The VP from Tulane made sense when she reported it. The anchor kind of butchered it afterwards since he doesn't know the city. Basically, the levee on the Orleans side of the 17th Street Canal suffered a breach 2 blocks long. But I don't know the precise location of the breach. Nevertheless, it sounds like water is pouring in from the canal and the lake into the Orleans Parish side, which will immediately effect the West End and Lakeview areas. The Tulane VP said that the water was coming down canal with white caps on it (like waves). Ugly. 1" rise every 5 minutes. Not good at all.

#31 Postby **crazycajuncane** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:48 am

Very close to the Superdome! The Superdome is much higher though.

Tulane is a lot lower and I can picture the water being to the point where ambulance can't get in. I've walked in that hospital before. It's scary and I know that Vice President of Tulane is going crazy right now.

chrisnnavarre · #32 Postby **chrisnnavarre** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:49 am

That's it...the city is now gone completly. I don't know why the Main Stream News is not screeming this from the bell towers.

Sounds to me like inner city New Orleans is filling up with water as we sit here.

#33 Postby **SouthFloridawx** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:49 am

one more pic just to give you an idea. I can't believe it... it seems so far from the break... ~!!!

Mobile Expat · #34 Postby **Mobile Expat** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:51 am

I saw that interview on CNN. The Tulane rep said they are considering evacuating their 1,000 patients BY AIR. She said they were considering flying them out of the place from the helicopter pad on the roof, with FEMA's assistance.

Their fear is the rapidly rising water will soon reach the hospital's second floor, where the backup generators are located, and cut power to the place.

#35 Postby **crazycajuncane** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:55 am

1 foot per hour.... they better start moving. At that rate it could reach the second floor in a few hours.

How do you stop a levee breach?

Not the kind of news we need to hear at 2 am the day after the storm.

#36 Postby **Windy** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:00 am

The Army Corp of Engineers can stop a levee breach that large, but it takes a lot of time and a lot of heavy equipment. They're having an emergency meeting at the moment on how to fix it (CNN).

Mobile Expat · #37 Postby **Mobile Expat** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:02 am

How far (as the crow flies) is it from the levee break to Tulane Hospital?

jopatura · #38 Postby **jopatura** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:03 am

"The water is not moving that fast" according to the Army Corps of Engineers to warrant evacuation. There is a breach, but either it's not really rising at 1in/5min or the water is levelling off, which would be the best case right now for the city.

#39 Postby **weatherSnoop** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:07 am

The lake is above sea level, and the city is 6 + ft below...leveling off with a breech is highly unlikely

NC George · #40 Postby **NC George** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:10 am

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf?/washingaway/nolalevees.html

has an excellent pic of the NOLA area levees, the smaller .jpg one has plenty of detail. Breach in question is likely #5.

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