Video from Gulfport...Ground Zero...No words

[ROCK]

WOW....I think to this point most of the main stream media does not have a clue what this storm has done.

Tomorow will be the day everyone finally realizes how bad this storm was

hard for me to type what Im feeling after seeing that.........All of us need to donate relief to these people...... anything, case of water, can foods...something.....

[Hyperstorm]

And these were ONLY real Category 3 conditions...

Imagine a full brunt of a 170 mph hurricane!

The United States is definitely not prepared to deal with these monsters...

[MKT2005]

Very little flooding it looks like, which is one good thing.

[NC George]

I'll still waiting for it to download (darned dialup) but I will say this, if a storm is coming and Sudduth is there - run for your life as far away as possible.

[frankthetank]

Notice how quiet it was? Just wind...

horrifying...

[Mobile Expat]

Amazing video...and that is not even taken on HWY 90 which is the closest road to the water

That was the intersection of Hwy 49 and Hwy 90, I believe. Anybody know for sure?

[djtil]

refamiliarize yourselves with camille...that video was impressive but nothing compared to some of these images....

http://www.geocities.com/hurricanene/hurricanecamille.htm

[Hyperstorm]

And these were ONLY real Category 3 conditions...

Imagine a full brunt of a 170 mph hurricane!

The United States is definitely not prepared to deal with these monsters...

Regarding my previous post...

I'm now starting to suspect about the Air Force Recon SFMR values that indicated 170 mph winds reaching the surface.

We DEFINITELY need to analyze these winds because if they are found to be correct, it is possible Katrina might be upgraded to a Category 5 hurricane in re-analysis, with winds of 170 mph over a VERY localized area...which happened to go right over the Gulf coast of Mississippi...

[djtil]

i doubt it....140mph could have easily caused that damage. there wasnt anything close to 170 even at flight level.

[Coredesat]

Wow.

[CronkPSU]

i doubt it....140mph could have easily caused that damage. there wasnt anything close to 170 even at flight level.

i'll wait for the re-analysis, but it sure seems odd to have that kind of monster low pressure and only 140 mph winds

[Hyperstorm]

i doubt it....140mph could have easily caused that damage. there wasnt anything close to 170 even at flight level.

Based on past storms history, the TPC has usually put in slightly more weight on SFMR winds than FL level when it comes to upgrading/downgrading storms.

I, too, HIGHLY doubt that these winds are REPRESENTATIVE, BUT they MUST be analyzed...

[djtil]

based on the broadening wind field due to the ewrc it seems reasonable...not to mention that we have multiple recon passes leading up to landfall....none showing more than 150 flight level for around 12 hours.

and the main point is that 170mph isnt needed to do the damage seen in that video. look at all the trees standing.....probably none left if it were 170mph.

[Mobile Expat]

WOW....I think to this point most of the main stream media does not have a clue what this storm has done.

No, they don't. I don't think any of us know how bad this is yet. Tomorrow will be a shocker, I fear.

[gunner1551]

that video clip should come with a warning!!! cant imagine that there could be a place harder hit,, only moring will tell us that

[MKT2005]

based on the broadening wind field due to the ewrc it seems reasonable...not to mention that we have multiple recon passes leading up to landfall....none showing more than 150 flight level for around 12 hours.

and the main point is that 170mph isnt needed to do the damage seen in that video.

Yes Cat-4 winds can do catastrophic damage, if you don't think so just like at punta gorda.

[Stratosphere747]

based on the broadening wind field due to the ewrc it seems reasonable...not to mention that we have multiple recon passes leading up to landfall....none showing more than 150 flight level for around 12 hours.

and the main point is that 170mph isnt needed to do the damage seen in that video.

There was some arguement earlier that pressure did not correspond to storm surge.

Being that these landfalling storms are such a rarity, I'm beginning to wonder?

The damage we see from Pass Christian and BSL along with the inital landfall in Louisiana will be from surge, and it may be comparable to Camille.

[djtil]

the surge correlates with wind speed and history of that wind speed (in addition to geography).....the pressure is irrelevant other than the fact that it typically correlates with the wind.

THERE IS NO LOW PRESSURE VACUUM

[Hyperstorm]

based on the broadening wind field due to the ewrc it seems reasonable...not to mention that we have multiple recon passes leading up to landfall....none showing more than 150 flight level for around 12 hours.

and the main point is that 170mph isnt needed to do the damage seen in that video.

Yes Cat-4 winds can do catastrophic damage, if you don't think so just like at punta gorda.

Yes, but this is an area that supposedly received CATEGORY 3 conditions. By the time the storm was nearing the MS coast, the official winds were in the CATEGORY 3 range.

This kind of damage is something you DON'T see in a Category 3, unless the structures are very poorly built.

This is EXTREME damage in my book...

[soney]

My gosh, it's hard to imagine I was just there June 24th. Everything is gone, everything.

I'm not even certain where that was shot because of the destruction, but I think the building where my best friend worked was in there and the windows were blown out (the 15 story building).

This will be all over the news tomorrow, I don't see how it can't.