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#1 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:28 pm

908 now. They said the flight level winds were lower too. They said 140 but not sure if it was knots or miles per hour as I kinda heard it at a distance. The next update will adjust this to a Cat 4
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#2 Postby Foladar » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:30 pm

It may or may not.
No one can guarentee this will be a cat 4.
There's still time before the 2am update.
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#3 Postby AnthonyC » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:31 pm

It doesn't matter if it's a weak category 5/strong category 4...the same effects will still arise. And 140 knot winds I believe is still a category 5...160mph. Katrina is in a weakening phase...I say she makes landfall with winds of 140mph.

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#4 Postby tallywx » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:31 pm

908 MB...andrew was 922 mb. if we're lucky it weakens to 922 mb. hugo was 934 mb. at best, we still get the doomsday scenario.
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Like I said...

#5 Postby curtinnc » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:37 pm

If you are freezing away in Barrow, Alaska at -30 F, and the temp goes up 10 degrees, is it a heat wave??? -20 still nothing but bad...
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#6 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:39 pm

I realize that 140 will still be really bad(if it gets to that point), but it's still better than 160+
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#7 Postby bp00010002 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:44 pm

Lets say pressure rises to 922 and winds fall to 140 ... I still lose my house in Metairie to water and/or wind. Better than 175 yes, but, not so much in reality. Still going to leave me and my neighbors in a lot of water, homeless, and, well, just in misery.
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#8 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:47 pm

yep, you are correct, but at the same time, there are certain buildings that may have a higher threshold as far as winds are concerned. Some may hold up to 180 mph, some 160, some higher, some lower, so it does make a difference, guess it just depends on the structure. As they said though, the floods are going to be the main problem.
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#9 Postby jpigott » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:50 pm

can someone tell me what a 908mb pressure correlates to in wind speed usually, it seems we've had some awfully low pressures but not the corresponding wind speeds?
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#10 Postby BlizzzardMan » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:54 pm

I have a question. The pressure is now up to 908MB but they are still saying the sustained winds are 160mph. Why is that? The 11PM advisory said this. Is going by the pressure a bit overrated when it comes to the wind speed? Camille was 909MB and it's sustained winds were close to 200mph. Just curious. Maybe the windspeed will be down with the 2AM advisory. I did hear that flight level winds were 141 mph. Maybe they meant knots since that would put winds around 160. Whatever it will be at landfall, I'm sure this will still be a historic storm unfortunately.
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#11 Postby THead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:55 pm

jpigott wrote:can someone tell me what a 908mb pressure correlates to in wind speed usually, it seems we've had some awfully low pressures but not the corresponding wind speeds?


Was thinking the same, saw someone else post that maybe the recon just hasn't been able to find the max winds for some reason, and that she was really alot stronger when she was at her peak.
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#12 Postby jasons2k » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:57 pm

That was just first pass on W side. They still have not flown the NE quadrant so don't make assumptions just yet, especially making statements like "this will be Cat 4 next advisory"
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#13 Postby senorpepr » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:00 pm

The flight winds are not "lower". Those were measured in a weaker part of the storm. They are getting ready to do a pass through the NE in a little bit...
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#14 Postby MKT2005 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:04 pm

This is only an opinion, so take it as you will. I am seeing some rapid decay in this storm. Others might not see this, but to me it is clear at night and day.
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#15 Postby fci » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:06 pm

I think I have read where the levee system can handle up through Cat 3.
If the storm is losing some intensity and will go over land before NO (be it a swamp, I know); what are the chances that winds will not go above Cat 3 and the levees will hold?

Or am I mistaken (I have read and heard a lot today and may be wrong here).

If so, I apologize.
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#16 Postby wolfmmiii » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:06 pm

I'm all for opinions as I've had MANY debates on this board about that. BUT, what leads you to that opinion? You'll do yourself some good to post at least some form of reasoning for that opinion.
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#17 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:08 pm

jschlitz wrote:That was just first pass on W side. They still have not flown the NE quadrant so don't make assumptions just yet, especially making statements like "this will be Cat 4 next advisory"



well that's only 5 mph less than it is now. :roll:
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#18 Postby vbhoutex » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:08 pm

MKT2005 wrote:This is only an opinion, so take it as you will. I am seeing some rapid decay in this storm. Others might not see this, but to me it is clear at night and day.


You have provided no back up except your own opinion. None of the agencies or for that matter TWC or anyone else is seeing this or expecting it. Until you start provbiding back up to your "opinion" about something so important and so possibly dangerous I would suggest you stop with this kind of posting.

From 50 years of experience along the Gulf Coast and from the latest satellite and radar I have seen THERE IS NOT RAPID DECAY WHATSOEVER!!!!
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#19 Postby MKT2005 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:09 pm

wolfmmiii wrote:I'm all for opinions as I've had MANY debates on this board about that. BUT, what leads you to that opinion? You'll do yourself some good to post at least some form of reasoning for that opinion.


Pressure is way up, the redbands are nearly gone on satalite, flight winds are way down, and she is near cooler water. She is dying, she still will be a major storm when she hits IMO, but not cat 5 or 4.
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#20 Postby fci » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:11 pm

MKT2005 wrote:
wolfmmiii wrote:I'm all for opinions as I've had MANY debates on this board about that. BUT, what leads you to that opinion? You'll do yourself some good to post at least some form of reasoning for that opinion.


Pressure is way up, the redbands are nearly gone on satalite, flight winds are way down, and she is near cooler water. She is dying, she still will be a major storm when she hits IMO, but not cat 5 or 4.



From your mouth (keyboard) to the Lord's ear.
Sure hope you are right; even if you possibly have no scientific basis for your statement.
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