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due north on radar

#1 Postby PTPatrick » Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:56 pm

radar looks almost due north...are my eyes decieving?
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#2 Postby Mac » Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:59 pm

Doesn't look due north to me.
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Re: due north on radar

#3 Postby Viper54r » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:00 pm

PTPatrick wrote:radar looks almost due north...are my eyes decieving?

Yes
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#4 Postby PTPatrick » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:01 pm

ok...last frame I see some w of north movement...maybe nnw
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#5 Postby tallywx » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:05 pm

I do not understand why people sometimes use the techniques they do on these boards?

When we have a hurricane completely identified on close-range radar, people attempt to use crappy IR satellite imagery to determine a storm's movement.

Now when we have a hurricane on the very edge of long-range radar with only half the eye visible, yet the storm is completely clear on visible satellite loop, people attempt to use radar to second-guess the obvious.

Just stick to the best technique. Especially at a time like this.
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#6 Postby aOl » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:11 pm

tallywx wrote:I do not understand why people sometimes use the techniques they do on these boards?

When we have a hurricane completely identified on close-range radar, people attempt to use crappy IR satellite imagery to determine a storm's movement.

Now when we have a hurricane on the very edge of long-range radar with only half the eye visible, yet the storm is completely clear on visible satellite loop, people attempt to use radar to second-guess the obvious.

Just stick to the best technique. Especially at a time like this.


Satillite is always 30 minutes to an hour behind. Radar updates every 4-7 minutes... so the last few frames on radar are NOT the last few frame on satillite... makes sense to me.
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#7 Postby Viper54r » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:15 pm

aOl wrote:
tallywx wrote:I do not understand why people sometimes use the techniques they do on these boards?

When we have a hurricane completely identified on close-range radar, people attempt to use crappy IR satellite imagery to determine a storm's movement.

Now when we have a hurricane on the very edge of long-range radar with only half the eye visible, yet the storm is completely clear on visible satellite loop, people attempt to use radar to second-guess the obvious.

Just stick to the best technique. Especially at a time like this.


Satillite is always 30 minutes to an hour behind. Radar updates every 4-7 minutes... so the last few frames on radar are NOT the last few frame on satillite... makes sense to me.

Radar is not the best thing to use to determine motion AT THIS TIME
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#8 Postby storms in NC » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:19 pm

Viper54r wrote:
aOl wrote:
tallywx wrote:I do not understand why people sometimes use the techniques they do on these boards?

When we have a hurricane completely identified on close-range radar, people attempt to use crappy IR satellite imagery to determine a storm's movement.

Now when we have a hurricane on the very edge of long-range radar with only half the eye visible, yet the storm is completely clear on visible satellite loop, people attempt to use radar to second-guess the obvious.

Just stick to the best technique. Especially at a time like this.


Satillite is always 30 minutes to an hour behind. Radar updates every 4-7 minutes... so the last few frames on radar are NOT the last few frame on satillite... makes sense to me.

Radar is not the best thing to use to determine motion AT THIS TIME


NO it is not good to use at this time. But when it get very close you can use it. But PLEASE use the satalites right now.
that said it is going NW and a wobbly here and there. but it is to the west more. even the NHC said so
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#9 Postby bvigal » Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:16 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

Several times with this and other storms, I'd think I saw a turn off forecast track. This year it's not a problem, because the satellite loops will superimpose the forecast track from NHC. It's great! No matter what, look at that, and see if the eye isn't passing right through those points. If it goes off course, it will be dead easy to see.
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#10 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:26 pm

Does look to be headed more toward the north. Check Visible here at Ramsdis.

Click on Floater upper left.

http://www.cira.colostate.edu/ramm/rmsd ... pical.html
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#11 Postby mtm4319 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:01 pm

Looks NNW to me.
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#12 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:18 pm

The turn is most definitely taking place. Go to the floater and turn the last 5 frames off. Then turn the first 5 off. It's easier to tell by doing that.

<edit> Actually, use the Gulf satellite loop. It's longer and easier to see.
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Re: due north on radar

#13 Postby TampaFl » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:21 pm

PTPatrick wrote:radar looks almost due north...are my eyes decieving?



Looks north to me also.

Robert 8-)
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#14 Postby JuliannaMKH » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:34 pm

The met on MSNBC just mentioned that the last few frames show it moving due North.
Take that for what it's worth.
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#15 Postby tampastorm » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:48 pm

Didnt agree, but after watching the last few loops over and over I now agree due north. Could she still turn more east? I think she will. IMO
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#16 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:13 pm

I have radar up on GARP. Here's what I measure using my mouse/cursor:

From 23Z to 00Z:
Moved 12.4 nautical miles to 324 degrees

From 22Z to 00Z:
Moved 20.9 nautical miles to 332 degrees


So I see a NW jog occurring and a slight speed increase beteen 6pm-7pm CDT.

Center at 7:02pm CDT: 27.2N/89.2W.
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#17 Postby Mac » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:18 pm

edit...removed double post
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#18 Postby Mac » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:19 pm

Yep. I see NNW as well. It did track north, but it appeared to only be a jog. It appears to me that NO is going to take a direct hit now, and only a miracle will save them. Once she hits the 90 mark, it's all over but the clean-up.
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#19 Postby mtm4319 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:28 pm

Another possible due N jog the past 30 minutes:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS. ... klix.shtml
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#20 Postby steveklein » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:33 pm

to me it definitely looks like it's headed due north... and if this trend continues, it may even wobble to the NNE a tenth or two tenths of a degree of longitude.

this seems to be great news for new orleans. they will certainly miss the right front quadrant of the storm... and they may miss the western eyewall too.
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