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#1741 Postby StormsAhead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:03 pm

URNT40 KWBC 282050
NOAA3 1812A KATRINA
204030 2645 08845 10061 -2311 183093 +182 +166 183103 094 008
204100 2645 08843 10034 -2141 183127 +165 +164 180140 120 007
204130 2645 08841 10216 -1923 178144 +143 +143 179145 117 033
204200 2645 08839 10280 -1728 177146 +123 +123 177149 113 031
204230 2645 08837 10026 -1574 179143 +129 +128 179145 108 019
204300 2645 08835 9990 -1441 178141 +122 +122 179142 103 017
204330 2645 08833 9984 -1323 179134 +127 +122 180137 098 012
204400 2645 08831 9978 -1220 181131 +126 +123 180132 094 006
204430 2645 08829 9963 -1127 182125 +138 +116 182127 092 003
204500 2645 08827 9963 -1048 181119 +142 +113 182120 087 001
204530 2645 08825 10021 -0965 181113 +148 +109 180114 088 001
204600 2645 08823 10019 -0900 182110 +146 +108 181111 087 001
204630 2645 08821 10012 -0846 182106 +143 +122 183107 088 004
204700 2645 08819 10025 -0794 181102 +140 +140 181104 087 007
204730 2645 08817 9987 -0751 183096 +139 +139 182102 089 008
204800 2645 08814 10027 -0704 184095 +139 +138 184096 088 008
204830 2645 08812 10085 -0654 185102 +133 +133 185106 088 018
204900 2645 08810 10046 -0615 184103 +130 +130 186105 084 022
204930 2645 08807 10053 -0573 180103 +130 +130 180105 083 013
205000 2645 08805 10060 -0535 177101 +123 +123 177101 081 008

149 knots max in the E quad. 120 knots surface.
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#1742 Postby StormsAhead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:05 pm

Solaris wrote:they may avoid the very bad wind regions for safety reasons?!


No, the planes can fly in much higher winds, since they're not actually flying into the wind.
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#1743 Postby Astro_man92 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:07 pm

HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 23A 1 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 wrote:
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 24, 4 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 wrote:
...REPEATING THE 1 PM CDT POSITION...26.5 N... 88.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...
175 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 906 MB.
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...REPEATING THE 4 PM CDT POSITION...26.9 N... 89.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 902 MB...




How come the winds went down 10 MPH even though the central pressure went down 4 MB??
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#1744 Postby Solaris » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:07 pm

ok, where is normally the wind max..NE or SE quadrant?
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#1745 Postby eye of the storm » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:09 pm

Solaris wrote:ok, where is normally the wind max..NE or SE quadrant?


NE
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#1746 Postby StormsAhead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:12 pm

URNT40 KWBC 282100
NOAA3 1812A KATRINA
205030 2645 08803 10054 -0499 175101 +123 +123 175101 079 006
205100 2645 08801 10062 -0469 176101 +122 +122 176103 076 008
205130 2645 08759 10060 -0447 178099 +119 +119 178099 069 012
205200 2645 08757 10067 -0422 178101 +118 +118 178103 075 012
205230 2645 08755 10058 -0395 178105 +119 +119 177107 070 011
205300 2645 08753 10064 -0372 179107 +118 +117 179109 069 014
205330 2645 08751 10071 -0350 178101 +118 +118 175103 070 018
205400 2645 08749 10060 -0326 175103 +117 +117 175104 069 017
205430 2645 08747 10061 -0304 175099 +111 +111 174101 070 012
205500 2645 08745 10062 -0279 176098 +113 +113 176099 070 009
205530 2645 08743 10069 -0252 176101 +113 +112 176101 069 007
205600 2645 08740 10066 -0230 176104 +111 +110 176105 065 006
205630 2645 08738 10072 -0212 176104 +114 +107 177106 059 008
205700 2645 08736 10066 -0200 176095 +113 +113 175097 042 026
205730 2645 08734 10056 -0180 181100 +108 +108 181101 063 010
205800 2645 08732 10032 -0160 180099 +107 +106 181100 062 008
205830 2645 08730 10030 -0143 180095 +111 +109 179097 063 013
205900 2645 08727 10072 -0128 179093 +108 +108 177097 062 018
205930 2645 08725 10030 -0117 174091 +104 +104 176094 060 019
210000 2645 08723 10075 -0101 171088 +101 +098 170089 060 012

109 knots FL
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#1747 Postby StormsAhead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:20 pm

URNT12 KNHC 282115
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 28/2038Z
B. 26 DEG 46 MIN N
88 DEG 55 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2252 M
D. N/A
E. N/A
F. 346 DEG 130 KT
G. 257 DEG 14 NM
H. 903 MB
I. 16 C/ 3061 M
J. 28 C/ 3063 M
K. 06 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C28
N. 12345/7
O. 1/1 NM
P. NOAA3 1812A KATRINA OB 20
MAX FL WIND 160 KTS NE QUAD 1743Z
EXCELLENT RADAR PRESENTATION

Slight weakening...
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#1748 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:27 pm

Here are 3 high-res McIDAS images at various zoom levels for your viewing pleasure:

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/katrina77.gif

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/katrina78.gif

And REALLY zoomed:
http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/katrina79.gif
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#1749 Postby WindRunner » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:29 pm

1 mb? They probably just missed the exact center, but it's a wishful thought. I'll go with it.
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#1750 Postby StormsAhead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:30 pm

URNT40 KWBC 282120
NOAA3 1812A KATRINA
211030 2657 08650 10007 +0081 168076 +111 +097 168076 049 007
211100 2700 08651 10005 +0077 165076 +116 +084 165076 049 009
211130 2702 08652 10005 +0077 163077 +117 +086 163077 051 010
211200 2705 08652 10004 +0075 162077 +116 +091 162078 050 013
211230 2708 08653 10004 +0075 163079 +118 +079 165081 051 012
211300 2710 08654 10011 +0079 162077 +116 +087 161078 050 011
211330 2713 08655 10011 +0077 161079 +118 +088 160081 049 010
211400 2715 08657 10012 +0075 161083 +115 +083 161084 049 008
211430 2718 08658 10005 +0069 162087 +114 +073 162088 050 007
211500 2720 08700 10009 +0065 162087 +111 +078 162087 051 007
211530 2722 08702 10012 +0061 160085 +108 +082 161086 999 999
211600 2724 08704 10008 +0054 158085 +103 +087 157087 051 012
211630 2726 08706 10006 +0044 158088 +104 +088 158089 054 012
211700 2727 08709 10007 +0037 158088 +106 +090 158088 053 011
211730 2729 08711 10007 +0026 156089 +106 +087 156090 054 009
211800 2731 08714 10014 +0018 154089 +105 +085 153090 054 009
211830 2732 08716 10013 +0014 153089 +102 +087 153090 055 009
211900 2734 08719 10007 +0006 150091 +098 +095 149091 055 008
211930 2736 08721 10005 -0005 148092 +099 +095 149092 055 009
212000 2737 08724 10006 -0016 146091 +102 +093 146092 057 009
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#1751 Postby Lowpressure » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:30 pm

I agree, no weakening here. This will be nasty. With warm eddy and improving outflow, she may bump back 175-180.
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#1752 Postby ALhurricane » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:32 pm

It amazes me how anybody can say a change from 902mb to 903mb is weakening.
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#1753 Postby canegrl04 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:33 pm

I think she will reach her peek sometime late tonight. Maybe 180mph which is awful to contemplate
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#1754 Postby StormsAhead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:34 pm

WindRunner wrote:1 mb? They probably just missed the exact center, but it's a wishful thought. I'll go with it.


That could be it, but also the temperature contrast has weakened as well. The winds have not weakened much, but there wasn't even 150 knots on that last pass.
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#1755 Postby cjrciadt » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:34 pm

ALhurricane wrote:It amazes me how anybody can say a change from 902mb to 903mb is weakening.
She's falling apart, anyway I still think she has to slow to reach sub 900, and 180 or more winds.
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#1756 Postby StormsAhead » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:37 pm

URNT40 KWBC 282130
NOAA3 1812A KATRINA
212030 2739 08726 10009 -0021 146093 +100 +096 145093 056 010
212100 2741 08729 10011 -0024 144093 +096 +096 144093 058 010
212130 2742 08732 10008 -0033 142093 +097 +097 141094 061 010
212200 2744 08734 10008 -0045 139094 +100 +095 139094 061 009
212230 2745 08737 10010 -0053 140093 +101 +098 142093 062 009
212300 2747 08740 10004 -0061 140094 +100 +100 139096 062 011
212330 2748 08743 10006 -0074 136097 +095 +095 138099 063 011
212400 2750 08745 10004 -0077 134093 +103 +100 132095 063 013
212430 2752 08748 10007 -0086 130092 +102 +099 130095 062 016
212500 2753 08750 10008 -0085 131085 +105 +104 130087 062 020
212530 2755 08753 9999 -0088 129087 +109 +107 128088 063 017
212600 2757 08755 10006 -0086 128082 +107 +106 128085 063 011
212630 2759 08758 10011 -0082 128079 +109 +106 128080 062 009
212700 2801 08800 10005 -0080 128082 +105 +105 128084 062 010
212730 2802 08803 9995 -0084 128087 +098 +098 128088 063 012
212800 2803 08806 10005 -0091 126090 +094 +094 126090 062 012
212830 2805 08809 10007 -0094 122088 +096 +096 122091 065 010
212900 2806 08811 10011 -0098 119085 +100 +100 119087 066 009
212930 2807 08814 10009 -0096 119082 +103 +103 120083 066 008
213000 2809 08817 10013 -0099 122081 +106 +106 121081 065 008
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#1757 Postby leonardo » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:39 pm

one thing that this storm has shown is that you don't need a long-track, Cape Verde hurricane in order to achieve category 5 status.

what this storm has done over 6 days, including some time over land, is nothing short of amazing. it just goes to show what a hurricane can do if given the perfect conditions.

as for the storm right now...it's holding steady...and there's still plenty of room for that eyewall to tighten up, unfortunately. I think it'll be interesting to see if it can break the sub 900 pressure barrier. I'm gonna say it's gonna stay steady, maybe rise a bit (to around 910) at landfall, but regardless, it's not gonna matter a whole lot. :(

God bless everyone in the path of this. the only thing we can do now is hope and pray.
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#1758 Postby Brent » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:40 pm

ALhurricane wrote:It amazes me how anybody can say a change from 902mb to 903mb is weakening.


New Orleans Catastrophe Cancel.

:lol:

*sarcasm*
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#1759 Postby heatstroke » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:43 pm

I agree with Cookiely...I have been watching the buoy page and it sure seems some of them have, uh, moved on...
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#1760 Postby WindRunner » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:44 pm

[quote="StormsAheadThe winds have not weakened much, but there wasn't even 150 knots on that last pass.[/quote]

Which walls did they go through on that pass? I wouldn't be surprised if they went through the SW and NW, which it looks like they did.
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