NWS NOLA = Chilling!

[wjs3]

thanks for the link!

[Steve]

bye everyone. All the best until next time.



Steve

[x-y-no]

http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/iwszone?Sites=:laz069

Scroll down or search for the word livestock.

Thanks very much.

Like I said - wasn't doubting, just wanted the official link for such strong wording before I passed it on to other boards.

[MBismyPlayground]

I am totally speechless, and that is very uncommon. The first thing that went thru my mind are the people who are actually staying, the ones going to the Dome or other shelters. Although these shelters are supposed to hold up under "normal" hurricane circumstances, what about under CAT 5 Circumstances??? Geez, at this point, people should be loading up on school buses and city buses just to get the heck out of there. Many people, apparently, have no cash to leave. With this type of senario one would think the city officials would devise a plan.

I am just sick to my stomach about this.

Maybe the National Guard could bring in some deuce and a halves to relocate people out of the danger zone. Make a tent city somewhere for the time being.

[wjs3]

timeflow:

Great write up. Sounds terrifying. I had realtives who were planning to wait this out in a downtown NO hotel. Talked them out of it. I will probably forward your post to them so they better understand what I was talking about.

[wxman57]

Two words keep going through my head - HOLY poop! (pardon my French) We've been saying that such a situation was possible, but actually seeing it in writing from the NWS is shocking.

[bvigal]

bye everyone. All the best until next time.



Steve

Steve!! Hope you are evacuating! If not hunker down good, be safe, and will keep you in prayers!

[wjs3]

WXMAN--

Agree--never seen a NWSFO use language like this. Absolutely incredible.

Usually the language is very scientific, even in severe weather.

Holy #2.

[beenthru6]

About the vertical evacs...What about the possibility of fires? Historically we have had plenty of devastating fires caused by flooding, not even counting in the other factors like winds. Even with all of the utilities like electric and gas shut off, there is still the threat of fires breaking out. Like there isn't enough to deal with.

[pkweed]

Run for the hills!

[wjs3]

Fires are absolutely a major concern. Lots of people in a building with no way out. No electricity, candles burning. No way for fire depts to get to them....yeah, it's a big worry.

[milankovitch]

About the vertical evacs...What about the possibility of fires? Historically we have had plenty of devastating fires caused by flooding, not even counting in the other factors like winds. Even with all of the utilities like electric and gas shut off, there is still the threat of fires breaking out. Like there isn't enough to deal with.

I'm thinking oil fires could be a problem as oil is carried around by a storm surge after the surge passes over a refinery or a storage area.

[superfly]

Welp, I was going to stay for a cat 4, but not this. I'm out of here.

[Lowpressure]

I too have never seen wording that harsh from NWS. They want to make their point, I think the were successful. Get out of this ones path.

[JPmia]

Good luck Steve, I am glad you made the right decision!! I am sure you will have some pretty disturbing pictures.

[Jim Cantore]

this is like a sequel to "The Day After Tommorow"

[sweetpea]

Welp, I was going to stay for a cat 4, but not this. I'm out of here.

Good luck and be safe.

[johngaltfla]

bye everyone. All the best until next time.



Steve

Good luck Steve. Our Prayers are with you.

[johngaltfla]

I have never in my life read such a dire statement. Ever. I'm speechless.

[timeflow]

timeflow:

Great write up. Sounds terrifying. I had realtives who were planning to wait this out in a downtown NO hotel. Talked them out of it. I will probably forward your post to them so they better understand what I was talking about.

I located some info on clocked wind speeds at the airport in San Juan. Here's a quote, and the link. Keep in mind it was really really bad. The damage to our apartment was due to higher winds on the 14th floor... but at the surface, the official estimates pale in comparison to what Katrina is capable of...

http://www.nap.edu/books/0309044758/html/87.html

"The WSFO at Luis Munoz Marin International Airport in San Juan recorded peak gusts of 80 knots (92 mph) between 1350 and 1415 GMT, and a time history of the peak gusts is plotted in Figure 4-2. The maximum sustained wind speed was 67 knots (77 mph). Adjusting this figure to take into account the 6.1-m height of the F420C anemometer would increase the maximum sustained wind speed by about 7 percent to 72 knots (83 mph).

It is known from eyewitness accounts that the eye passed over the region from Luquillo east to Cape San Juan. Because the winds there would have been directly off the ocean, speeds slightly higher than those at Roosevelt Roads Naval Station may have been reached."

BTW The airport is a mile or so off the beach from Isla Verde. I used to look out the windows to the south to see and hear the commercial and military jets taxi around the runway and take off/land. These measurements were taken very close to our building. Cat 1/2 strength it appears, but it was quite bad, we lived it. No water for 9 days, no power for a week, a huge stinking (literally) mess for a month.