NHC pleads for immediate evacuation of NO
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NHC pleads for immediate evacuation of NO
NHC pleads for immediate evacuation of NO
Watching 4WWL and the Mayor of NO is on (10:05 PM) and is describing how the NHC has pleaded with him directly in the past hour to order a mandatory evacuation immediately, and not to wait until morning ... he says he can't do that, for legal reasons, but is recommending an immediate voluntary evac of NO to begin right now.
Watching 4WWL and the Mayor of NO is on (10:05 PM) and is describing how the NHC has pleaded with him directly in the past hour to order a mandatory evacuation immediately, and not to wait until morning ... he says he can't do that, for legal reasons, but is recommending an immediate voluntary evac of NO to begin right now.
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Brent wrote:The mayor and his family are evacuating!!
Time to GET OUT...![]()
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This is the most telling thing I have heard all day.
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Derek Ortt wrote:right now, does it really matter what the legalities are? We are taking about saving lives. Constitutional rights should be suspended in NO IMMEDIATELY to ensure the safety of the citizenry there
Exactly!! Who the heck cares about legal crap? There's gonna be heck to pay if you have tens of thousands or even more dead because there was no evacuation...
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Derek Ortt wrote:right now, does it really matter what the legalities are? We are taking about saving lives. Constitutional rights should be suspended in NO IMMEDIATELY to ensure the safety of the citizenry there
I wonder what legalities the mayor is talking about.
On a side note, "constitutional rights" should not be suspended...I don't know what you're talking about; but the rule of law is what saves lives by preventing anarchy. Even with martial law, there is no outright suspension of order.
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Re: NHC pleads for immediate evacuation of NO
oneness wrote: ... he says he can't do that, for legal reasons, but is recommending an immediate voluntary evac of NO to begin right now.
What are the legal reasons he is talking about??
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Hey, I'm not saying that if there's some law in the parrish that says the Mayor can't do this or that after this time because of some asinine reason, then I'm all for suspending that.
The difference is, there is no way in hell that things should be taken to an extreme. I mean, what, you want people pulling out guns and shooting to get around other cars along evac routes? You want people out looting supplies and stealing gas? Total anarchy. Then MORE people get hurt.
That's all I'm saying. There has to be a line. And if Derek is a fascist, well, he can reconcile that with himself.
Great forcaster though.
/end rant.
// flame on.
The difference is, there is no way in hell that things should be taken to an extreme. I mean, what, you want people pulling out guns and shooting to get around other cars along evac routes? You want people out looting supplies and stealing gas? Total anarchy. Then MORE people get hurt.
That's all I'm saying. There has to be a line. And if Derek is a fascist, well, he can reconcile that with himself.
Great forcaster though.
/end rant.
// flame on.
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Ola wrote:I heard the interview and the mayor's words were something like " Wakefield called me and told me "You dont have a levi that can take this, it wont hold, you must evacuate now""
I'd be in Houston right now if I were a resident of New Orleans.
Hell, we're keepin a close eye here. Any 100 mile change in the track and we're going to be in deep poop. We're waiting for that North turn any minute now.
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crazycajuncane wrote:Ola wrote:I heard the interview and the mayor's words were something like " Wakefield called me and told me "You dont have a levi that can take this, it wont hold, you must evacuate now""
I'd be in Houston right now if I were a resident of New Orleans.
Hell, we're keepin a close eye here. Any 100 mile change in the track and we're going to be in deep Number 2. We're waiting for that North turn any minute now.
If I was a resident there yesterday, I'd be in Little Rock today.
There is NO WAY I'd ride out a 4 or 5 unless circumstances for me dictated otehrwise....
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Derek Ortt wrote:right now, does it really matter what the legalities are? We are taking about saving lives. Constitutional rights should be suspended in NO IMMEDIATELY to ensure the safety of the citizenry there
This is a sad reality. There is no way the mayor can order a mandoratory evacuation at this point. If he did he would make the city liable to anything that happens to the forced evacuees. At this point it is physically impossible to evacuate the entire city. Plus the fact that anything that happens to forced evacuees could potentially make the city liable. Some scenerios:
1.) People forced to evacuate stuck in traffic dies because of the lack of 72 hours notice -- City liable for deaths
2.) People forced to evacuate dies in auto accident -- City liable for deaths
Potentially, the city could set themselves up for a massive class action wrongful death suit with a mandatory evacuation at this time even though the residents has had enough warning through media/politicians to make the wise/life saving decision.
The mayor did the best thing he could by mentioning what the NHC pleaded him to do and saying he could not do it for liability purposes (and I don't like this mayor). At that point, everybody should know what the situation is and make a wise decision. For myself, me and the family (5-7 carloads) will be leaving around 4:30 this morning headed to Atlanta.
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