How sharp of a right turn will Katrina make..?

[NorthGaWeather]

I just don't see this turn being that sharp. I'm still thinking Mobile Bay.

[caneman]

I'm starting to think she will be strictly a peninsula storm, and if she does make it back into the Gulf it will not be by very much. JMHO

I would agree and what most are failing to recognize is how slowly the storm is moving and may even slow more so there would be no hard turn rather a very slow turn..

[NorthGaWeather]

I'm starting to think she will be strictly a peninsula storm, and if she does make it back into the Gulf it will not be by very much. JMHO

I would agree and what most are failing to recognize is how slowly the storm is moving and may even slow more so there would be no hard turn rather a very slow turn..

Oh its still a hard turn.

[BamaMan]

Hey now NorthGa, thats where I do most of my fishing. Surely don't need that, but what makes you feel like second landfall would be that far to the west?
My feelings were based on the weakness between the two highs being weaker than anticipated.

[NorthGaWeather]

Hey now NorthGa, thats where I do most of my fishing. Surely don't need that, but what makes you feel like second landfall would be that far to the west?
My feelings were based on the weakness between the two highs being weaker than anticipated.

Well right now, I just don't see this trough being strong enough to yank Katrina North that fast. The high is still very strong over the Gulf Coast States, so I believe the track will be further West. Regardless of the weakness, it will still go further West IMO.

[caneman]

I'm starting to think she will be strictly a peninsula storm, and if she does make it back into the Gulf it will not be by very much. JMHO

I would agree and what most are failing to recognize is how slowly the storm is moving and may even slow more so there would be no hard turn rather a very slow turn..

Oh its still a hard turn.

My interpretation of a hard turn is moving 10 to 15 mph stopping and then taking off in another direction. Drifiting along at 0 - 5 mph would only move 0 to 100 miles in a day which is plenty of time for a direction change from WNW to NW to N and even NE. IMHO.

[NorthGaWeather]

I'm starting to think she will be strictly a peninsula storm, and if she does make it back into the Gulf it will not be by very much. JMHO

I would agree and what most are failing to recognize is how slowly the storm is moving and may even slow more so there would be no hard turn rather a very slow turn..

Oh its still a hard turn.

My interpretation of a hard turn is moving 10 to 15 mph stopping and then taking off in another direction. Drifiting along at 0 - 5 mph would only move 0 to 100 miles in a day which is plenty of time for a direction change from WNW to NW to N and even NE. IMHO.

Well we have two different interpretations.

[BamaMan]

Guess we will just have to wait and see. Thanks for response though Northga

[vbhoutex]

Lots of opinions, very little back up to those opinions, except for a few. Please, when making blanket statements about what you think will happen, give us some reasoning. You know who you are.

It is not the trough itself that will pull Katrina Northward, if she is, but the weakness the shortwaves moving along that trough causes or another way to say it is the erosion of the Western periphery of the Eastern ridge. There are two, one over the SE and one over LA/MS(retreating W). The erosion of the Eastern ridge along with the retrograding to the West Western ridge is what will open the door for the North turn, if it happens.

[Stormcenter]

Lots of opinions, very little back up to those opinions, except for a few. Please, when making blanket statements about what you think will happen, give us some reasoning. You know who you are.

It is not the trough itself that will pull Katrina Northward, if she is, but the weakness the shortwaves moving along that trough causes or another way to say it is the erosion of the Western periphery of the Eastern ridge. There are two, one over the SE and one over LA/MS(retreating W). The erosion of the Eastern ridge along with the retrograding to the West Western ridge is what will open the door for the North turn, if it happens.

Hey but isn't what this board is all about, opinions. That way we have people like you tell us why we are wrong or right.
They have another board for the Pros.

[vbhoutex]

Lots of opinions, very little back up to those opinions, except for a few. Please, when making blanket statements about what you think will happen, give us some reasoning. You know who you are.

It is not the trough itself that will pull Katrina Northward, if she is, but the weakness the shortwaves moving along that trough causes or another way to say it is the erosion of the Western periphery of the Eastern ridge. There are two, one over the SE and one over LA/MS(retreating W). The erosion of the Eastern ridge along with the retrograding to the West Western ridge is what will open the door for the North turn, if it happens.

Hey but isn't what this board is all about, opinions. That way we have people like you tell us why we are wrong or right.
They have another board for the Pros.

Wrong, I am not here to tell you whether you are wrong or right even though I MIGHT have a lot more tropical experience that you. I am here to discuss and learn about the tropics and weather in general(and as a mod help the board run smoothly). As a whole when someone makes a comment about "it will make a hard right turn"(or whatever they say), there has to be some reasoning behind that comment. Not much to discuss(or point out why one is right or wrong) if that is the only statement there.

The other forum is not for the pros only. You will notice that others besides the pro mets post in there also. The only limitation on that forum is who can start the threads and that is limited to approved amatuers and Pros.

[NorthGaWeather]

Lots of opinions, very little back up to those opinions, except for a few. Please, when making blanket statements about what you think will happen, give us some reasoning. You know who you are.

It is not the trough itself that will pull Katrina Northward, if she is, but the weakness the shortwaves moving along that trough causes or another way to say it is the erosion of the Western periphery of the Eastern ridge. There are two, one over the SE and one over LA/MS(retreating W). The erosion of the Eastern ridge along with the retrograding to the West Western ridge is what will open the door for the North turn, if it happens.

If your talking to me, I did give reasoning.

[vbhoutex]

Lots of opinions, very little back up to those opinions, except for a few. Please, when making blanket statements about what you think will happen, give us some reasoning. You know who you are.

It is not the trough itself that will pull Katrina Northward, if she is, but the weakness the shortwaves moving along that trough causes or another way to say it is the erosion of the Western periphery of the Eastern ridge. There are two, one over the SE and one over LA/MS(retreating W). The erosion of the Eastern ridge along with the retrograding to the West Western ridge is what will open the door for the North turn, if it happens.

If your talking to me, I did give reasoning.

I DID NOT NAME ANYONE!!!! I was talking to EVERYONE in general and to those who do not post any reasoning, with their opinions/forecasts/etc.

[NorthGaWeather]

Lots of opinions, very little back up to those opinions, except for a few. Please, when making blanket statements about what you think will happen, give us some reasoning. You know who you are.

It is not the trough itself that will pull Katrina Northward, if she is, but the weakness the shortwaves moving along that trough causes or another way to say it is the erosion of the Western periphery of the Eastern ridge. There are two, one over the SE and one over LA/MS(retreating W). The erosion of the Eastern ridge along with the retrograding to the West Western ridge is what will open the door for the North turn, if it happens.

If your talking to me, I did give reasoning.

I DID NOT NAME ANYONE!!!! I was talking to EVERYONE in general and to those who do not post any reasoning, with their opinions/forecasts/etc.

Thanks for the reply.

[Stormcenter]

Lots of opinions, very little back up to those opinions, except for a few. Please, when making blanket statements about what you think will happen, give us some reasoning. You know who you are.

It is not the trough itself that will pull Katrina Northward, if she is, but the weakness the shortwaves moving along that trough causes or another way to say it is the erosion of the Western periphery of the Eastern ridge. There are two, one over the SE and one over LA/MS(retreating W). The erosion of the Eastern ridge along with the retrograding to the West Western ridge is what will open the door for the North turn, if it happens.

Hey but isn't what this board is all about, opinions. That way we have people like you tell us why we are wrong or right.

I base my opinions on history
They have another board for the Pros.

Wrong, I am not here to tell you whether you are wrong or right even though I MIGHT have a lot more tropical experience that you. I am here to discuss and learn about the tropics and weather in general(and as a mod help the board run smoothly). As a whole when someone makes a comment about "it will make a hard right turn"(or whatever they say), there has to be some reasoning behind that comment. Not much to discuss(or point out why one is right or wrong) if that is the only statement there.

The other forum is not for the pros only. You will notice that others besides the pro mets post in there also. The only limitation on that forum is who can start the threads and that is limited to approved amatuers and Pros.

My comments were not meant to offend you if that's the way you took it. Anyway I personally don't make statements like that but I will say when I do or do not agree with what the NHC predicts based on the erractic path of past storms in the same type of scenario. We all know troughs are sometimes not as strong as the model anticipate they will be and at the moment I question whether this may be the case and when Katrina decides to turn northward (if she does) she may be further west than predicted.