How sharp of a right turn will Katrina make..?

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How sharp of a right turn will Katrina make..?

#1 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:48 am

I've been viewing the models this morning and 2 of them did show Katrina barely making it into the GOM.. then making a sharp right hand turn back over the peninsula..

That'd kinda make me have a little more wind but a lot more rain..

What are ya'lls take on this
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#2 Postby tronbunny » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:15 am

You are observant, john.

According to the 00Z consensus graphic, we have a more dramatic (S and E) recurve after the 2 day due west trek...
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#3 Postby shaggy » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:15 am

CMC UKMET and GFS all show this solution and run it up the west coast of Florida then back along the SE coast of the US alot depends on the ridge and how much it breaks down.Some models actually show intensification after it re-emerges in the atlantic but nobody knows for sure just have to wait and see what the NHC thinks
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#4 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:16 am

I think that is very possible....a slow moving system tends to be more erratic and the trough is digging down. It all depends on how strong the weakeness will be but it seems the NHC keeps bending it right each advisory.
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#5 Postby rockyman » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:21 am

The latest GFDL has shifted back west (and continues to insist on the run around south Florida)...anyone know where to find the detailed GFDL track? The FSU and PSU sites are still showing the old GFDL:

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#6 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:22 am

Model runs (including GFDL):

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/
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#7 Postby WindRunner » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:24 am

Man, the LBAR sure does look interesting in terms of intensity, but I want to see the A98E verify! :lol:
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#8 Postby MortisFL » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:25 am

rockyman wrote:The latest GFDL has shifted back west (and continues to insist on the run around south Florida)...anyone know where to find the detailed GFDL track? The FSU and PSU sites are still showing the old GFDL:

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GFDL has been consistently south of FL before making the bend around the state into the panhandle. Unless something drastic happens, I dont see Katrina missing SE Florida.
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#9 Postby HurricaneGirl » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:29 am

The blue one is going right over Jacksonville. :eek:
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#10 Postby rockyman » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:29 am

boca_chris wrote:Model runs (including GFDL):

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/


Thanks, boca! But the latest GFDL is not showing up yet....I just checked again and it looks like the 6z might be getting ready to appear (the 6z Hillary is now up).
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#11 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:53 am

actually if you seen the models they are slowly shifting west...
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#12 Postby NastyCat4 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:32 am

The models are out to lunch, as per usual. The storm will probably track
West, and then turn NW or WNW, but not hug the coast, or pull a right hook. They are overplaying that turn, with bad data.
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#13 Postby Scorpion » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:33 am

I agree NastyCat4.
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#14 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:35 am

NastyCat4 wrote:The models are out to lunch, as per usual. The storm will probably track
West, and then turn NW or WNW, but not hug the coast, or pull a right hook. They are overplaying that turn, with bad data.


I think so too.
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#15 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:40 am

ya, im not getting the hard turn either
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#16 Postby N2Storms » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:48 am

Evidently Derek Ortt isn't either. If you read his updated forecasts in the analysis forum he has made only a slight right shift in his forecast from yesterday which put Katrina's second landfall right around Pensacola or just west of Pensacola. He is also much more aggressive with his intensity forecast than is the NHC...I think the NHC will eventually shift their track a little left, but until it enters the GOMEX it's still way to premature to speculate on a 2nd landfall...I think it would be very prudent for anyone from the upper Tx coast to the FL West Coast to keep their guard up and not take anything for granted this far out...
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#17 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:57 am

there are no questions for me....looks like a very strong ridge right now....time will tell what happens later...

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen_ ... ge=800x600
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#18 Postby dwg71 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:06 am

N2Storms wrote:Evidently Derek Ortt isn't either. If you read his updated forecasts in the analysis forum he has made only a slight right shift in his forecast from yesterday which put Katrina's second landfall right around Pensacola or just west of Pensacola. He is also much more aggressive with his intensity forecast than is the NHC...I think the NHC will eventually shift their track a little left, but until it enters the GOMEX it's still way to premature to speculate on a 2nd landfall...I think it would be very prudent for anyone from the upper Tx coast to the FL West Coast to keep their guard up and not take anything for granted this far out...


NHC actually shifted their forecast East. 5AM had storm as far west as 85W and now its 84.5W. Katrina isn't coming to the upper TX coast, NHC is pretty confident in their track forecast, it hasnt changed much in 3 days.
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#19 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:27 am

dwg71 wrote:
N2Storms wrote:Evidently Derek Ortt isn't either. If you read his updated forecasts in the analysis forum he has made only a slight right shift in his forecast from yesterday which put Katrina's second landfall right around Pensacola or just west of Pensacola. He is also much more aggressive with his intensity forecast than is the NHC...I think the NHC will eventually shift their track a little left, but until it enters the GOMEX it's still way to premature to speculate on a 2nd landfall...I think it would be very prudent for anyone from the upper Tx coast to the FL West Coast to keep their guard up and not take anything for granted this far out...


NHC actually shifted their forecast East. 5AM had storm as far west as 85W and now its 84.5W. Katrina isn't coming to the upper TX coast, NHC is pretty confident in their track forecast, it hasnt changed much in 3 days.


Did anybody really think she would come to the Upper Texas coast?
I know I didn't but I will say it would not surprise me one bit if she made landfall further west (AL/FL stateline) than what the NHC is predicting.
Also, I hate to beat a dead horse but the NHC did have Cindy making landfall in Texas 2-3 days out and she ended up in LA/MS so nothing is written in stone especially with a slow moving storm like Katrina that is over 3 days out or more from making the second landfall. IMO
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#20 Postby BamaMan » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:31 am

I'm starting to think she will be strictly a peninsula storm, and if she does make it back into the Gulf it will not be by very much. JMHO :idea:
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