HUH SUPER TYPHOONS IVAN AND JOAN?!?!?!

[Astro_man92]

here is the link

[url=http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc/atcr/1997atcr/ch3/27-28ww.htm]SUPER TYPHOONS IVAN (27W) AND JOAN (28W)
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Even the pictures and captions are interesting!!!

But still a TYPHOON IVAN!!!!!

[WeatherEmperor]

those pics are amaaaaaazing!

<RICKY>

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

What can I say Ivan rocks!!! In any basin he's at...

[ROCK]

great read. thanks for sharing...

[Scorpion]

Wow, thats beautiful. The Pacific sure rocked in 97. Imagine if we had 2 160 kt TC's in the Atlantic at once.

[HURAKAN]

Amazing images. That's what I would consider truly to be "TWINS."

[ohiostorm]

I would hate to see that in the Atlantic.

[WeatherEmperor]

I would hate to see that in the Atlantic.

Even worse. Imagine something like that bearing down on South Florida. Just imagine the panic and chaos....

<RICKY>

[BensonTCwatcher]

WOW, nice post. I enjoyed the intensity analysis "off the scale" . I had one experience with a super typhoon. I was stationed at Okinawa Japan and ST Flo came ashore near Kadena bay. The report was of 180kt winds. I was approx. 5 miles from the eyewall. I can really not believe that report knowing what I know now, but that's what they said. I saw cars being blown down the streets like WAL-Mart bags. Most if not all the construction on the island is reinforced concrete since there are no trees for one, and they typically get around 5-10 typhoons a year coming close or making landfall. ( not to mention earthquakes) In 1989 we had about 2 months of "secured" to base episodes based on an elevated TC condition. Later that year, Mt. Pinatubo exploded in the Phillipines and we went down for relief efforts.

That is by far my most interesting tropical season, other than perhaps 1996 in NC with Bertha and Fran when we lived on a barrier island. Our nieghborhood was wrecked, our home in need of repair and we moved to higher ground. In Okinawa all the property was US govt. or Japanese, so I did not have a concept of what a land falling TC can mean to people.

Funny thing was, after S-Typhoon Flo, the aircraft hangers were damaged and outlying buildings but the Japanese folks just went about sweeping up the streets of palm tree fronds etc. and 3 days later everything was back in business for the most part.

We would not be so fortunate here, since we have not had a storm of that intensity strike and we are either not prepared or too stupid to build on the beach with sticks and paper.

[Aslkahuna]

The 1997 Typhoon year was a typical one where we have a developing El Niño (in this case a very strong one). In such years, we generally see more typhoons than normal with more Supers than usual. The tracks shift east with the development of warm water in the Niño regions and we have fewer hits on the Philippines and fewer South China Sea storms. Storms tend to move up more towards the Japanese Home Islands (as we saw last year). In post Niño years, we then tend to see a below average trend through to about August or September with annual totals trending below normal. The number of Supers also tends to be a bit below the average of 4.5/yr. By late in the year and the effects of the Niño finally wear off, typhoon numbers tend to return to normal and since this is the time of year when the Philippines is most at risk they tend to get hit hard.

Steve