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#21 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:43 pm

Stephanie wrote:I understand Cindy Sheehan's need to talk to the President, but she does have other family that needs her as well. I'm sure that she is so overwhelmed with her grieve and anger that she can't put this behind her and move on. I just hope that she doesn't find herself totally alone in the end.


My problem with that is... she already met with him!!! She had her chance. Take a look at the link above. A PICTURE of her holding a poster that says "God Bless President Bush and our troops".

The President could meet with her and she would still be annoying and on the news all the time. That's not even the point for her being there anymore. As long as the media gives her the time of day(which they will, you never ever hear the good news out of Iraq), she's gonna be around...
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#22 Postby feederband » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:11 pm

I'm just glad I wasn't her son..I would be rolling in my grave....He joined the military willing he knew the risked ..Paid the ultimate sacrifice only for his mom to dishonor him......IMO......I feel for her and anyone who has lost loved ones to this war ..But when she made it a political forum thats where she lost my respect....
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#23 Postby Kelarie » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:25 pm

I believe the reason that she is doing this is she is to question Bush regarding all of the "material" that has come up about why we have gone to war. She has done some research and now believes her son died for false pretenses.

Now regarding her actions. She is a mother who is grieving. Understandable. She is in denial. Understandable. Is she being used to be a front for the non-war front? Yes.

I think you should put yourself in her shoes and try and imagine if your child was dead, before throwing around words like treachery and such. She is a woman who is hurting and believes that this war is wrong. (No matter what your views are.) This is sad and I feel for this woman and every other parent that has lost their child in this war.

I come from a military family and understand the sacrifice that comes along with service. Just trying to give another perspective. Just not try and be so judgmental.
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#24 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:34 pm

The reason she's doing this is because her grief has been exploited by the far left. Much of her little charade has been bankrolled by Michael Moore. I don't think that's a coincidence.
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#25 Postby streetsoldier » Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:26 pm

gtalum wrote:The reason she's doing this is because her grief has been exploited by the far left. Much of her little charade has been bankrolled by Michael Moore. I don't think that's a coincidence.


Frankly, I believed that Cindy Sheehan was being "used", and therefore had some sympathy for her; now, I have reason to revise that assessment :larrow: .
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#26 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:49 pm

gtalum wrote:The reason she's doing this is because her grief has been exploited by the far left. Much of her little charade has been bankrolled by Michael Moore. I don't think that's a coincidence.


Obviously...

But she refuses to turn down their help so until she does, she's just as bad as the extremists she claims she is not. :roll:
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#27 Postby sunny » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:19 am

nola.com

MOTHERS IN ARMS

Cindy Sheehan is not the only mother to lose a son in Iraq. Three local moms share her pain. But they draw the line on her politics.

Sunday, August 21, 2005
By Meghan Gordon
St. Tammany bureau

Lisa Kirk buried her son, a Marine, in December. Ann Comeaux got the terrible news from the Louisiana National Guard in January. Denise Godbolt's life almost stopped in March.

They know the depths of grief to which a child's death can plunge a mother. And like Cindy Sheehan, the California mother who took up a vigil outside President Bush's Texas ranch, each knows how a war half a world away can crash down on her doorstep.

While Sheehan's extended camp-out in Crawford, Texas, continues to fuel pundits' praise and scorn, the three Louisiana mothers largely have ignored the squawking talk-show hosts and 24-hour updatesfrom Camp Casey, as Sheehan's encampment has become known. They carry on with their far more private lives and speak in tones less certain than those of the antiwar protesters demanding President Bush bring all U.S. troops home.

Without exception, they never stray far in their comments about the war from the fact that their sons believed in their missions and understood the risks.

"The thing that I can't doubt is his commitment to what he was doing," Lisa Kirk said of her son, Sgt. Jeffrey Lynn Kirk.

In contrast to Sheehan's pronouncements that her son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, 24, was "murdered" in a war started by a "liar" and "filth-spewer," Kirk takes a decidedly measured approach to the global politics that led to her 24-year-old son's death. She said no one, not even the country's decision-makers, knows whether the war's final outcome will be for the better. But she remains hopeful it will.

"I'm sure that innocent people have been hurt because of the decisions. My son was one of them," said Kirk, who lives in Abita Springs. "Some good will suffer for the benefit of the whole. And some decisions will definitely be wrong. We can't know of the outcome. It's not a pretty thing. . . . It's a helpless feeling to not know."

Kirk's son died Dec. 12 in Al Anbar province, during his second tour in Iraq. Jeffrey Lynn Kirk took pleasure in the gratitude Iraqis expressed to him, through invitations to tea and warm conversations through translators.

Lisa Kirk looked to accounts of those moments in her son's letters when reaching her decision to support the troops now and ask questions about the war's underlying motives and mistakes later. What's done is done, she said, and the heat of the battle is no time for protests and counter-protests.

"We will be all the better if we can rid the world of the idea of tolerance for terrorists and brutal dictatorship," Kirk said. "Democracy may not be their answer. These aren't the only two alternatives. But I feel that the brutality forced upon them and the terrorists' acts forced upon us are cause for action. This is what my son taught me. This is all I know about politics."

Despite their differing views, Kirk holds no disdain for Sheehan.

"If this mother is detrimental to our mission there, or if she is mistaken about things, she's the last one to be judged," Kirk said.

Steadfast supporter

It's no wonder Ann Comeaux, 60, of Houma didn't recognize Sheehan's name or her list of demands that were the top story on some talk radio and cable television news programs for the past two weeks. Comeaux walks out of the room when she hears someone criticizing the war effort.

Her son, Sgt. 1st Class Kurt Comeaux, 34, didn't have to risk his life in a war zone. Diagnosed with cancer during basic training, he had a free pass on the obligations he made when he enlisted. He didn't take it.

On Jan. 6, Comeaux was one of six Louisiana National Guardsmen who died in a roadside bomb while on patrol outside Baghdad.

Because of her son's determination, Ann Comeaux said, she will support the war, however long it takes. Nevertheless, she admits she's unaware of all the factors that sent troops into war and those that will determine when troops pull out.

"We've got to hope and pray that they know when to stop it, because I wouldn't want any of our soldiers to die if they don't have to," Comeaux said. "We have to trust that they're doing the right things."

So she sticks to doing what she knows: comforting newly grieving parents by driving up to two hours to their children's funerals, and writing sympathy letters to as far away as Ohio to thank other parents for their soldiers' lives. She has dealt with her pain, she said, and she's ready to help other military parents who live in daily fear of receiving the same news about their children.

Comeaux cast those actions as her way of putting away the pain of her son's death, but she doesn't criticize Sheehan for taking a markedly different path to repairing her own life.

"I understand her logic; I understand her pain," Comeaux said. "But in another way, I couldn't do that with my son's memory. Because he chose to do this. I mean, he didn't choose to die, but he chose to defend our country."

Conspicuous pride

Denise Godbolt, 47, shook off a dark cloud of despair just weeks after a Baghdad suicide bomber killed her 23-year-old son, Louisiana National Guard Sgt. Lee Godbolt, on March 26. She traveled to the five states where he trained and relished the ceremonies that paid him tribute. Strangers called in their thanks and sent letters to her apartment in New Orleans' lower 9th Ward.

Unlike other parents who closed off the public attention, Godbolt embraced it. She saved every program that mentioned her son and every knickknack that support groups sent her, including a candle decorated with doves, a charm bracelet with Lee's name and a card previewing a "Freedom Quilt" made with his image.

"This is history, and my son is part of history," she said, smiling while she thumbed through the table covered with memorabilia. "Do you know how that makes me feel?"

The obvious awe Godbolt has for her son naturally colors her views on the war.

She said Lee Godbolt kept the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the back of his mind when he needed motivation in Iraq. She said it's now her duty to take up his views and support a war that he saw as way to stamp out terrorism and a guarantee that al-Qaeda doesn't unleash another attack on America.

"We took a heavy hit there, you know?" she said. "That affected everybody in the U.S.A. So while we're out there blaming Bush, cutting up, spending all your life in misery, they're plotting on how they're going to come back and get us again. We've got to watch that. My son is a soldier and a hero, and I'm a soldier's mother, and I'm standing for a good cause: what my son believed in.

"I'm going to go to my grave standing for what he believed in. That's what mamas do when their little soldiers go away to war."

Godbolt had the harshest comments about Sheehan but surmised her words against the war are rooted in a terrible pain. Godbolt said she wants to ask Sheehan whether she thinks her son would be proud of her protests.

"He would say, 'Why is my mom doing this?' " Godbolt said. " 'This is what I chose to do. I want her to be happy.' . . . When they're over there, they are family. So why can't we be family when one falls, and get closer? That's what our boys would want. They're together up there. Why can't we be together here?"

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Meghan Gordon can be reached at mgordon@timespicayune.com or (985) 898-4827.
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#28 Postby azskyman » Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:45 am

Thanks for sharing, Sunny.
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#29 Postby Radar » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:33 pm

I was surprised at the amount of media coverage Cindy Sheehan got and the amount of people who came to support her. At first I thought "This is just a grieving mother blowing off steam" but now I realize that she intended for this protest to get this big, this is what she desired and what motivated her. As a matter of fact she may have been disappointed that it didnt turn into a bigger "riot" type protest. Certainly the media helped fuel the fire and caused this to turn into a bigger sized protest then what it would have been if they had not been involved. If it wasnt for the mass media involvement Cindy Sheehan and her handfull of original supporters would have spent a week at the Crawford Ranch then loaded up and head back to CA. I blame the media for making this protest what it is today, not Sheehan. Sheehan had a right to protest peacefully.. It doesnt matter that I dont agree with her, she has the right to her own opinions. Are we so hungry for unrest in this country that we continue to support a media that profits off of our unhappiness? I think the media is the root of evil in the U.S. and although freedom of press is a wonderful belief that should be upheld. Doesnt the media have a responsibility to just report a story and not turn it into a three ring circus?
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#30 Postby Brent » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:36 pm

Thanks for posting that Sunny. 8-)
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