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JB and SAL duke it out.

#1 Postby OuterBanker » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:25 am

JB has stated that there will be seven named storms between now and Sept 20. SAL says nonsense, he will personally see to it the JB is wrong. Who will win. Place your bets.
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Re: JB and SAL duke it out.

#2 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:41 am

OuterBanker wrote:JB has stated that there will be seven named storms between now and Sept 20. SAL says nonsense, he will personally see to it the JB is wrong. Who will win. Place your bets.


Why is it the only place we hear about SAL is on this board? I can't recall ever hearing the NHC mentioning it as an inhibiting factor in tropical development. I'll put my $$$ on JB.
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Re: JB and SAL duke it out.

#3 Postby NateFLA » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:02 am

Stormcenter wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:JB has stated that there will be seven named storms between now and Sept 20. SAL says nonsense, he will personally see to it the JB is wrong. Who will win. Place your bets.


Why is it the only place we hear about SAL is on this board? I can't recall ever hearing the NHC mentioning it as an inhibiting factor in tropical development. I'll put my $$$ on JB.

I sorta agree. It seems people on this board get fixated on one or two things per year... this year it seems to be MJO and SAL. Outside this board its not that big of a factor, but inside this board people would tell you the oceans could be boiling, but if MJO and SAL are not favorable, you wont even see a thunderstorm in the area.
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Re: JB and SAL duke it out.

#4 Postby WindRunner » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:04 am

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Stormcenter wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:JB has stated that there will be seven named storms between now and Sept 20. SAL says nonsense, he will personally see to it the JB is wrong. Who will win. Place your bets.


Why is it the only place we hear about SAL is on this board? I can't recall ever hearing the NHC mentioning it as an inhibiting factor in tropical development. I'll put my $$$ on JB.

I sorta agree. It seems people on this board get fixated on one or two things per year... this year it seems to be MJO and SAL. Outside this board its not that big of a factor, but inside this board people would tell you the oceans could be boiling, but if MJO and SAL are not favorable, you wont even see a thunderstorm in the area.


We're funny like that, aren't we? :lol:

I'd go with JB on this one.
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Re: JB and SAL duke it out.

#5 Postby x-y-no » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:06 am

Stormcenter wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:JB has stated that there will be seven named storms between now and Sept 20. SAL says nonsense, he will personally see to it the JB is wrong. Who will win. Place your bets.


Why is it the only place we hear about SAL is on this board? I can't recall ever hearing the NHC mentioning it as an inhibiting factor in tropical development. I'll put my $$$ on JB.


Actually, I recall the NHC discussion on Irene a week or so ago mentioning that the dry environment would keep the system small. They may not have explicitly mentioned SAL, but that's what they were talking about.
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#6 Postby du1st » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:17 am

Go JB!
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#7 Postby wxwatcher91 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:27 am

heres a new comparison:

July 1-15 compared to August 1-15

July had three named storms... two of them were Dennis and Emily (enough said) the other was Cindy

August we have had Harvey and Irene as well as TD 10... Harvey was really not much ... a 65mph TS... Irene has reached hurricane status and is on the verge of cat 2...

conclusion... July 1-15 has August 1-15 beat pretty badly... let's see what the later half of August has in store... for July the later half was basically exactly the same as the first half of August...
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Re: JB and SAL duke it out.

#8 Postby jax » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:29 am

OuterBanker wrote:JB has stated that there will be seven named storms between now and Sept 20. SAL says nonsense, he will personally see to it the JB is wrong. Who will win. Place your bets.


my money is on JB... he's usually right...
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anyone

#9 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:35 am

Anyone have the link for JB's Forcast today? Thanks much appriciated....
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#10 Postby bfez1 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:46 am

My money is on JB!!!
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#11 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:51 am

southfloridawx2005 wrote:Anyone have the link for JB's Forcast today? Thanks much appriciated....


please
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#12 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:53 am

southfloridawx2005 wrote:Anyone have the link for JB's Forcast today? Thanks much appriciated....


This is supposedly the link http://weather.yahoo.com/vidindex/index.html

But I don't see it today. :roll:
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ok thanks

#13 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:55 am

ok that's what i have too ... there is just no link today or maybe its not done yet...
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#14 Postby Rashid » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:44 am

I'm not sure if he taped a tropical weather video today or if yahoo is just being slow uploading it.
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#15 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:00 pm

Message from Sanibel super computer:


Irene formation is telling us Atlantic is ripe once SAL lifts in September...
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Re: JB and SAL duke it out.

#16 Postby dhweather » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:32 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:JB has stated that there will be seven named storms between now and Sept 20. SAL says nonsense, he will personally see to it the JB is wrong. Who will win. Place your bets.


Why is it the only place we hear about SAL is on this board? I can't recall ever hearing the NHC mentioning it as an inhibiting factor in tropical development. I'll put my $$$ on JB.


They do mention it, here's one example:

000
AXNT20 KNHC 071759
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 PM EDT THU JUL 07 2005

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHEASTERN SECTIONS
OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE AFRICAN COAST FROM
THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED ON
SATELLITE IMAGERY...WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...RADAR...AND
METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS.

BASED ON 1200 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
1715 UTC.

<snip>

WINDS AND NUMEROUS SQUALLS TO DEVELOP OVER THE SRN BAHAMAS AND W
OF THE BAHAMAS TONIGHT THROUGH SAT. FARTHER E...A MID-OCEANIC
UPPER LOW IS CENTERED 500 NM NE OF THE NRN LEEWARD ISLANDS NEAR
22N55W BUT IS SURROUNDED BY EXTENSIVE DRY AIR AND IS CAUSING NO
SIGNIFICANT WEATHER. A LARGE UPPER HIGH IS CENTERED OVER THE E
ATLC NEAR 21N26W WITH RIDGE EXTENDING W TO 16N50W. A SWATH OF
DRY SAHARAN AIR AND WIDESPREAD DUST EXTENDS S OF A LINE FROM
25N15W 17N40W 16N50W TO THE ITCZ.
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#17 Postby Derecho » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:53 pm

Oh, JB will likely be close to right.

(Cue sound of volcanoes erupting, earthquakes, a 7-headed serpent in the sky, the Universe Imploding, the arrival of the Antichrist, etc.)

Indeed, as I've mentioned earlier and others have noted in this thread, people are getting SAL-obsessed as if it was something new..it's been around most tropical seasons, it's just gotten a name that people know recently.

JB's certainly more right than the clueless panickers we've seen most every tropical season who don't understand tropical climo and expect the first two weeks of August to be insanely active...

That said, he's not exactly going out on some sort of limb; only reason it's perceived as going out on a limb is due to the pernicious influence of the aforementioned "THE SEASON IS DEAD SAL SHEAR WAAAAAH!!!!" panickers.
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