ATL: FRANKLIN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#501 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:57 pm

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#502 Postby Teban54 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:36 pm

There have been a few recent storms in this general region on a similar path that underperformed, namely Paulette 2020 and Earl 2022. Both were forecast by NHC to peak at Cat 4 strength but only reached Cat 2.

So it's great to see impressive majors in the area like Fiona and especially Franklin that lived up and even exceeded expectations. Franklin wasn't even forecast to reach 115 kts for a while before it started intensifying.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#503 Postby Poonwalker » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:06 pm

What an impressive hurricane. It’s almost perfect if one can use that word. Thank god it’s a fish storm.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#505 Postby Chris90 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:20 pm



I respect Derek but I'm not sure this is correct. Pre-Franklin was Invest 90L, which was a tropical wave.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#506 Postby weeniepatrol » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:32 pm

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I respect Derek but I'm not sure this is correct. Pre-Franklin was Invest 90L, which was a tropical wave.


I'm certain passing tropical waves helped amplify things but I'm pretty sure the August TC outbreak was in fact due to the monsoon trof breaking down?
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#507 Postby Chris90 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:24 am

weeniepatrol wrote:
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I respect Derek but I'm not sure this is correct. Pre-Franklin was Invest 90L, which was a tropical wave.


I'm certain passing tropical waves helped amplify things but I'm pretty sure the August TC outbreak was in fact due to the monsoon trof breaking down?


I think I'm confused by Derek saying it was a non-tropical wave origin. When it was 90L the NHC was referring to it as a tropical wave. Even if there was some interaction with the monsoon trough breakdown that led to genesis I was under the impression the original seed was a tropical wave. Derek makes it sound as if there wasn't a tropical wave as a seed and it was distinctly a WPAC-esque genesis which is where I'm confused.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#508 Postby weeniepatrol » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:58 am

Chris90 wrote:
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Chris90 wrote:
I respect Derek but I'm not sure this is correct. Pre-Franklin was Invest 90L, which was a tropical wave.


I'm certain passing tropical waves helped amplify things but I'm pretty sure the August TC outbreak was in fact due to the monsoon trof breaking down?


I think I'm confused by Derek saying it was a non-tropical wave origin. When it was 90L the NHC was referring to it as a tropical wave. Even if there was some interaction with the monsoon trough breakdown that led to genesis I was under the impression the original seed was a tropical wave. Derek makes it sound as if there wasn't a tropical wave as a seed and it was distinctly a WPAC-esque genesis which is where I'm confused.


Not too sure, my understanding is that its genesis is attributable to both a monsoon trof and a tropical wave.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#510 Postby REDHurricane » Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:54 am

And here comes the EWRC

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#512 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:34 am

Poonwalker wrote:Thank god it’s a fish storm.


I am literally under a tropical storm watch.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#514 Postby cainjamin » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:21 pm

Franklin looks to be strengthening again, probably almost finished the ERC. Outer eyewall is cooling and inner one is almost gone.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#516 Postby ChrisH-UK » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:50 pm

Heres a loop of Franklin using GeoColor and Optical Depth to show the structure inside Franklin, you can see it doing a Eye Wall Replacement.

Source - https://col.st/rlmif

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#517 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:03 pm

Franklin is once again stunning. The system appears to have gone annular.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#518 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:20 pm

Truck tire annular donut.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#520 Postby zzzh » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:41 pm

Buoy 41048 in the NE of Franklin recorded pressure of 955.4 and it is still dropping
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