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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#261 Postby doomhaMwx » Wed May 24, 2023 9:07 am

An elevated AWS at a research center in Yigo, Guam had a min station pressure of 27.949 inHg (946.46mb) at 20:05 CHST (10:05Z) as Mawar passed to the north. My personal estimate of the station elevation is about 140m ASL, resulting in ~962mb MSLP — so far the lowest I've seen in Guam.

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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#262 Postby wxman57 » Wed May 24, 2023 9:08 am

Peak wind reported at the Guam airport was sustained wind 62 kts with a gust to 91 kts. This was not a supertyphoon as it passed. Likely a Cat 2 at that time. Maybe 100 kts. JTWC was likely overestimating winds. Considerable weakening occurred prior to passage.

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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#263 Postby wxman57 » Wed May 24, 2023 9:12 am

JTWC is STILL saying 120 kts? Dvorak down to 4.5 to 5.0. Likely around 85-90 kts. Starting to look better on satellite now.
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#264 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed May 24, 2023 9:53 am

Looks cat 3 now, perhaps another round of RI occurring?
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#265 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed May 24, 2023 9:58 am

wxman57 wrote:Peak wind reported at the Guam airport was sustained wind 62 kts with a gust to 91 kts. This was not a supertyphoon as it passed. Likely a Cat 2 at that time. Maybe 100 kts. JTWC was likely overestimating winds. Considerable weakening occurred prior to passage.



Nonprofessional observation here, I think a personal weather station in Hagatna recorded sustained winds of 157 km/h, several gusts in excess of 206 km/h (close to 105 kts) with the max gust of up to 240 km/h from 10-11 PM ChST. Shown in the previous page. Am not sure how reliable it is though. Did the Guam Airport continue reporting after the peak?
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#266 Postby doomhaMwx » Wed May 24, 2023 10:19 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Peak wind reported at the Guam airport was sustained wind 62 kts with a gust to 91 kts. This was not a supertyphoon as it passed. Likely a Cat 2 at that time. Maybe 100 kts. JTWC was likely overestimating winds. Considerable weakening occurred prior to passage.



Nonprofessional observation here, I think a personal weather station in Hagatna recorded sustained winds of 157 km/h, several gusts in excess of 206 km/h (close to 105 kts) with the max gust of up to 240 km/h from 10-11 PM ChST. Shown in the previous page. Am not sure how reliable it is though. Did the Guam Airport continue reporting after the peak?

That station is located at Nimitz Hill, which has an elevation of ~200m.
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#267 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed May 24, 2023 10:42 am

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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#268 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed May 24, 2023 10:55 am

The eye has really cleared out and become symmetric the last couple of frames on satellite. It seems this storm did that little island dance where it scoots around the north side of the island like you see sometimes with Hispaniola in the Atlantic.
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#269 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed May 24, 2023 11:41 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:The eye has really cleared out and become symmetric the last couple of frames on satellite. It seems this storm did that little island dance where it scoots around the north side of the island like you see sometimes with Hispaniola in the Atlantic.


Likely wasn’t topographical induced this time because Guam isn’t the high so Froude number is lower and less energy is bedded to go over the island.
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#270 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed May 24, 2023 11:58 am

doomhaMwx wrote:An elevated AWS at a research center in Yigo, Guam had a min station pressure of 27.949 inHg (946.46mb) at 20:05 CHST (10:05Z) as Mawar passed to the north. My personal estimate of the station elevation is about 140m ASL, resulting in ~962mb MSLP — so far the lowest I've seen in Guam.

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This makes the 950s or so plausible. Would wager this was a Category 3 at closest approach.
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#271 Postby Kingarabian » Wed May 24, 2023 11:59 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:The eye has really cleared out and become symmetric the last couple of frames on satellite. It seems this storm did that little island dance where it scoots around the north side of the island like you see sometimes with Hispaniola in the Atlantic.

Possible but Guam is not as mountainous. But a great point as models don't seem to model this out properly. We do see this in Hawaii as well similar to Hispaniola.
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#272 Postby zzzh » Wed May 24, 2023 1:05 pm

ERC is far from over per the microwave. Another case of IR deception.
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#273 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 24, 2023 1:40 pm

02W MAWAR 230524 1800 14.1N 144.1E WPAC 130 930
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#274 Postby dexterlabio » Wed May 24, 2023 1:43 pm

zzzh wrote:ERC is far from over per the microwave. Another case of IR deception.


Let's see if Mawar can pull off a seamless EWRC this time around.
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#275 Postby Hayabusa » Wed May 24, 2023 1:44 pm

12z Euro is same as 00z stalling near/over Babuyan/Batanes islands before going NE
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#277 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 24, 2023 1:54 pm

Wow, it has rained a ton over there.

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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#278 Postby canebeard » Wed May 24, 2023 1:56 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:The eye has really cleared out and become symmetric the last couple of frames on satellite. It seems this storm did that little island dance where it scoots around the north side of the island like you see sometimes with Hispaniola in the Atlantic.

Possible but Guam is not as mountainous. But a great point as models don't seem to model this out properly. We do see this in Hawaii as well similar to Hispaniola.


I doubt Guam or Hawaii affects the path; more likely just fortuitous wobbles and/or erc at just the right time, changing the geometric center point temporarily. Guam has had direct hits on several occasions. Hispanolia is another story. When we went to Puerto Rico to chase Hugo in 1989, many of the locals in San Juan claimed the Yunque region east of them protected them from direct hits. Recent history has disproved that one.
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Re: WPAC: MAWAR - Typhoon

#279 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 24, 2023 2:00 pm

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Kingarabian wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:The eye has really cleared out and become symmetric the last couple of frames on satellite. It seems this storm did that little island dance where it scoots around the north side of the island like you see sometimes with Hispaniola in the Atlantic.

Possible but Guam is not as mountainous. But a great point as models don't seem to model this out properly. We do see this in Hawaii as well similar to Hispaniola.


I doubt Guam or Hawaii affects the path; more likely just fortuitous wobbles and/or erc at just the right time, changing the geometric center point temporarily. Hispanolia is another story. Guam has had direct hits on many occasions. When we went to Puerto Rico to chase Hugo in 1989, many of the locals in San Juan claimed the Yunque region east of them protected them from direct hits. Recent history has disproved that one.


Here are the Guam hits and near misses in history.

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