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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#101 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:18 am

I think Nigel will peak around 90-105 kt. All the hurricane models are still forecasting a rather large core, which will make RI a little difficult in the 48-60 hr window that Nigel has. I’m expecting something similar to Paulette, Larry, or Earl.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#102 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:27 pm

Convection is really popping off this afternoon.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#103 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:32 pm

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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#104 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:34 pm

Up to 55kt.

AL, 15, 2023091718, , BEST, 0, 247N, 492W, 55, 994, TS
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#105 Postby WalterWhite » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:38 pm

cycloneye wrote:Up to 55kt.

AL, 15, 2023091718, , BEST, 0, 247N, 492W, 55, 994, TS


This could become a hurricane soon.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#106 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:09 pm

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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#107 Postby WalterWhite » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:42 pm

The NHC still has this attaining major hurricane status for the 5 PM forecast:

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 994 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 55 KT WITH GUSTS TO 65 KT.
50 KT....... 40NE 30SE 0SW 0NW.
34 KT.......120NE 60SE 40SW 90NW.
12 FT SEAS..180NE 120SE 120SW 150NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 25.1N 49.5W AT 17/2100Z
AT 17/1800Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 24.7N 49.2W

FORECAST VALID 18/0600Z 26.3N 50.6W
MAX WIND 70 KT...GUSTS 85 KT.
64 KT... 20NE 20SE 15SW 15NW.
50 KT... 50NE 40SE 30SW 40NW.
34 KT...130NE 80SE 60SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 18/1800Z 27.8N 52.1W
MAX WIND 85 KT...GUSTS 105 KT.
64 KT... 20NE 20SE 15SW 20NW.
50 KT... 50NE 40SE 30SW 40NW.
34 KT...130NE 90SE 80SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 19/0600Z 29.2N 53.6W
MAX WIND 100 KT...GUSTS 120 KT.
64 KT... 30NE 30SE 20SW 25NW.
50 KT... 60NE 50SE 40SW 40NW.
34 KT...130NE 110SE 80SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 19/1800Z 31.0N 55.0W
MAX WIND 100 KT...GUSTS 120 KT.
64 KT... 40NE 30SE 25SW 30NW.
50 KT... 60NE 60SE 40SW 50NW.
34 KT...130NE 120SE 90SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 20/0600Z 33.1N 55.4W
MAX WIND 100 KT...GUSTS 120 KT.
50 KT... 70NE 70SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT...130NE 130SE 90SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 20/1800Z 35.7N 54.2W
MAX WIND 90 KT...GUSTS 110 KT.
50 KT... 70NE 70SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT...130NE 140SE 100SW 100NW.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 125 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 175 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 15 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 21/1800Z 41.3N 45.9W
MAX WIND 75 KT...GUSTS 90 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 22/1800Z 47.8N 31.7W...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
MAX WIND 60 KT...GUSTS 75 KT.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#108 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:44 pm

WalterWhite wrote:The NHC still has this attaining major hurricane status for the 5 PM forecast:

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 994 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 55 KT WITH GUSTS TO 65 KT.
50 KT....... 40NE 30SE 0SW 0NW.
34 KT.......120NE 60SE 40SW 90NW.
12 FT SEAS..180NE 120SE 120SW 150NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 25.1N 49.5W AT 17/2100Z
AT 17/1800Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 24.7N 49.2W

FORECAST VALID 18/0600Z 26.3N 50.6W
MAX WIND 70 KT...GUSTS 85 KT.
64 KT... 20NE 20SE 15SW 15NW.
50 KT... 50NE 40SE 30SW 40NW.
34 KT...130NE 80SE 60SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 18/1800Z 27.8N 52.1W
MAX WIND 85 KT...GUSTS 105 KT.
64 KT... 20NE 20SE 15SW 20NW.
50 KT... 50NE 40SE 30SW 40NW.
34 KT...130NE 90SE 80SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 19/0600Z 29.2N 53.6W
MAX WIND 100 KT...GUSTS 120 KT.
64 KT... 30NE 30SE 20SW 25NW.
50 KT... 60NE 50SE 40SW 40NW.
34 KT...130NE 110SE 80SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 19/1800Z 31.0N 55.0W
MAX WIND 100 KT...GUSTS 120 KT.
64 KT... 40NE 30SE 25SW 30NW.
50 KT... 60NE 60SE 40SW 50NW.
34 KT...130NE 120SE 90SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 20/0600Z 33.1N 55.4W
MAX WIND 100 KT...GUSTS 120 KT.
50 KT... 70NE 70SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT...130NE 130SE 90SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 20/1800Z 35.7N 54.2W
MAX WIND 90 KT...GUSTS 110 KT.
50 KT... 70NE 70SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT...130NE 140SE 100SW 100NW.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 125 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 175 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 15 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 21/1800Z 41.3N 45.9W
MAX WIND 75 KT...GUSTS 90 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 22/1800Z 47.8N 31.7W...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
MAX WIND 60 KT...GUSTS 75 KT.


There are now three M's on the forecast, up from one at 11 AM.

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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#109 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:03 pm

A CDO is forming.

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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#110 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:31 pm

TXNT24 KNES 180020
TCSNTL

A. 15L (NIGEL)

B. 18/0000Z

C. 25.2N

D. 50.0W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T3.5/3.5

G. IR/EIR/SWIR

H. REMARKS...8/10 BROKEN BANDING YIELDS A DT=3.5. MET=3.0. PT=3.5. THE
FT IS BASED ON THE PT GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE LLCC RELATIVE TO AND
THE FLUCTUATION OF THE BANDING FEATURES, AND AN ADJUSTMENT WAS MADE TO
THE MET.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#111 Postby abajan » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:41 pm

We have Hurricane Nigel!
AL, 15, 2023091800, , BEST, 0, 255N, 499W, 65, 988, HU, 64
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#112 Postby Landy » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:53 pm

Has met the bare minimum for rapid intensification having been 35kt this time yesterday.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#113 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:53 pm

abajan wrote:We have Hurricane Nigel!
AL, 15, 2023091800, , BEST, 0, 255N, 499W, 65, 988, HU, 64

Nigel’s floater on tropical tidbits has it labeled as a hurricane now as well
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion update: 00z Best Track up to Hurricane

#114 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:13 pm

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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion update: 00z Best Track up to Hurricane

#115 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:14 pm

Last night at this time it was a TS of 35kt and 24 hours later is at 65kt and this is RI starting.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion update: 00z Best Track up to Hurricane

#116 Postby zzzh » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:17 pm

Got revised down to 60kt.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion update: 00z Best Track up to Hurricane

#117 Postby zzzh » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:27 pm

I think they saw the ASCAT, that's why they revised it down.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion update: 00z Best Track up to Hurricane

#118 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:29 pm

cycloneye wrote:Last night at this time it was a TS of 35kt and 24 hours later is at 65kt and this is RI starting.


Even if is 60kt, I stand with the same words.
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion update: 00z Best Track up to Hurricane

#119 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:35 pm

zzzh wrote:I think they saw the ASCAT, that's why they revised it down.


Do you have it?
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Re: ATL: NIGEL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#120 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:39 pm

This is why we dont change the title of threads until the advisory is out. Best Track is a good tool but is not the ultimate last word.
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