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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
00z CMC shifts back well east of the Bahamas, picks it up earlier. Also has a very quick intensification rate compared to the 12z.
Intensity still playing a big role here.
00z UKMET not much difference this run. Still weak and drifting NNW into the Bahamas.
Intensity still playing a big role here.
00z UKMET not much difference this run. Still weak and drifting NNW into the Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
00z Euro even further SW compared to the 12z run and is over the Bahamas. Yet to be picked up.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
00z Euro hours 168-216. Picked up but there's a ridge building to its east. Might be an east coast threat this run.
Finally OTS hour 240. Couple of hundred miles east of NC.
Finally OTS hour 240. Couple of hundred miles east of NC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Don't like the pattern of ridge persistence anomalies we are seeing at the end of the model runs.
WXman57 mentioned that Florida has been beating the odds for landfall, but I would think this system might be a concern for Georgia to Cape Hatteras if the model percentages don't return to neutral.
WXman57 mentioned that Florida has been beating the odds for landfall, but I would think this system might be a concern for Georgia to Cape Hatteras if the model percentages don't return to neutral.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
00z Ukmet... Continues doing its thing with a weak 91L in the SE Bahamas in 5-6 days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
The 6z GFS is out to lunch. There is no way that can verify. Just look at current WV loop and you can see there is zero path out when it is trying to take it out. Systems like this that persist for long periods of time under less than ideal conditions tend to pop once they find their sweet spot...if they are able to find it. Might not be till the Bahamas, but it could happen quickly when/if it does.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Euro ensembles after the majority showing 91L going well OTS now are split.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
It will be interesting to see what actually happens. So far the Euro and UKMET have been very similar, both are trending to pretty much nothing.
0Z UKMET
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
0Z Euro
0Z and 6Z GFS very similar. The GFS is better with a sheared environment and picking out competing centers, usually, but confidence this year is ZIP.
0Z CMC
0Z and 6Z GFS very similar. The GFS is better with a sheared environment and picking out competing centers, usually, but confidence this year is ZIP.
0Z CMC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
With the hurricane models I'll use the parent view to show where it's going.
HWRF 6Z
HAFS
HWRF 6Z
HAFS
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
The GFS will eventually trend towards the Euro and UKMET, it is doing a horrible job with ridging. The Bermuda ridge is not going anywhere, overall.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
NDG wrote:The GFS will eventually trend towards the Euro and UKMET, it is doing a horrible job with ridging. The Bermuda ridge is not going anywhere, overall.
https://i.imgur.com/d48rtcN.gif
The key ridge forecast will come into play after 3 days.
I couldn't do it looking at the water vapor loop.
If you were a space alien from another planet maybe you could see some pattern in the arctic vortex?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Huge difference in the pattern between the GFS and Euro as in little as 90 hrs through at least day 7.
The GFS shows a trough digging down near Bermuda while the Euro keeps ridging in place in that area.
The GFS shows a trough digging down near Bermuda while the Euro keeps ridging in place in that area.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
We might get a low end tropical storm out of this, maybe.
6Z euro
6Z euro
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
tolakram wrote:We might get a low end tropical storm out of this, maybe.
6Z euro
https://i.imgur.com/fTUmyzz.gif
Yeah maybe at best a weak TS over the next 5-7 days. After that, it'll be in area where climo favors a stronger system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Kingarabian wrote:tolakram wrote:We might get a low end tropical storm out of this, maybe.
6Z euro
https://i.imgur.com/fTUmyzz.gif
Yeah maybe at best a weak TS over the next 5-7 days. After that, it'll be in area where climo favors a stronger system.
It's one of those very strange ironies. The longer it goes being a nothing, the likelihood of it being an actual threat ticks up a small notch
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Pretty sizeable shift SW on 12z ICON, for what it's worth. Keeping it weak while passing N of the Greater Antilles at a WNW bearing. Maybe worth considering since UKMET and Euro are similar.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
GFS a little less organized than last run, and so far a little south and west.
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