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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#381 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:08 am

00z CMC shifts back well east of the Bahamas, picks it up earlier. Also has a very quick intensification rate compared to the 12z.

Intensity still playing a big role here.

00z UKMET not much difference this run. Still weak and drifting NNW into the Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#382 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:41 am

00z Euro even further SW compared to the 12z run and is over the Bahamas. Yet to be picked up.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#383 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:55 am

00z Euro hours 168-216. Picked up but there's a ridge building to its east. Might be an east coast threat this run.

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Finally OTS hour 240. Couple of hundred miles east of NC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#384 Postby Nimbus » Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:40 am

Don't like the pattern of ridge persistence anomalies we are seeing at the end of the model runs.
WXman57 mentioned that Florida has been beating the odds for landfall, but I would think this system might be a concern for Georgia to Cape Hatteras if the model percentages don't return to neutral.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#385 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:27 am

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00z Ukmet... Continues doing its thing with a weak 91L in the SE Bahamas in 5-6 days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#386 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:30 am

The 6z GFS is out to lunch. There is no way that can verify. Just look at current WV loop and you can see there is zero path out when it is trying to take it out. Systems like this that persist for long periods of time under less than ideal conditions tend to pop once they find their sweet spot...if they are able to find it. Might not be till the Bahamas, but it could happen quickly when/if it does.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#387 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:42 am

Euro ensembles after the majority showing 91L going well OTS now are split.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#388 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:50 am

It will be interesting to see what actually happens. So far the Euro and UKMET have been very similar, both are trending to pretty much nothing.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#389 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:57 am

0Z Euro
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0Z and 6Z GFS very similar. The GFS is better with a sheared environment and picking out competing centers, usually, but confidence this year is ZIP.
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0Z CMC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#390 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:01 am

With the hurricane models I'll use the parent view to show where it's going.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#391 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:04 am

The GFS will eventually trend towards the Euro and UKMET, it is doing a horrible job with ridging. The Bermuda ridge is not going anywhere, overall.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#392 Postby Nimbus » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:21 am

NDG wrote:The GFS will eventually trend towards the Euro and UKMET, it is doing a horrible job with ridging. The Bermuda ridge is not going anywhere, overall.

https://i.imgur.com/d48rtcN.gif


The key ridge forecast will come into play after 3 days.
I couldn't do it looking at the water vapor loop.
If you were a space alien from another planet maybe you could see some pattern in the arctic vortex?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#393 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:24 am

Huge difference in the pattern between the GFS and Euro as in little as 90 hrs through at least day 7.
The GFS shows a trough digging down near Bermuda while the Euro keeps ridging in place in that area.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#394 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:51 am

We might get a low end tropical storm out of this, maybe.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#395 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:59 am

tolakram wrote:We might get a low end tropical storm out of this, maybe.

6Z euro
https://i.imgur.com/fTUmyzz.gif

Yeah maybe at best a weak TS over the next 5-7 days. After that, it'll be in area where climo favors a stronger system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#396 Postby sma10 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:09 am

Kingarabian wrote:
tolakram wrote:We might get a low end tropical storm out of this, maybe.

6Z euro
https://i.imgur.com/fTUmyzz.gif

Yeah maybe at best a weak TS over the next 5-7 days. After that, it'll be in area where climo favors a stronger system.


It's one of those very strange ironies. The longer it goes being a nothing, the likelihood of it being an actual threat ticks up a small notch
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#397 Postby Landy » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:46 am

Pretty sizeable shift SW on 12z ICON, for what it's worth. Keeping it weak while passing N of the Greater Antilles at a WNW bearing. Maybe worth considering since UKMET and Euro are similar.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#398 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:53 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#399 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:54 am

GFS a little less organized than last run, and so far a little south and west.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#400 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:57 am

Still waiting on the ICON on Tropical Tidbits.
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