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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#141 Postby caneman » Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:00 pm

gatorcane wrote:The GFS shows a clear weakness over Florida and the SW Atlantic with the Bermuda High shunted east. So the storms turns north over the Eastern Bahamas. The forecast is similar to the Euro.


The only thing clear is that is a long way off and error margins are huge at that range
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#142 Postby Jr0d » Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:17 pm

caneman wrote:
gatorcane wrote:The GFS shows a clear weakness over Florida and the SW Atlantic with the Bermuda High shunted east. So the storms turns north over the Eastern Bahamas. The forecast is similar to the Euro.


The only thing clear is that is a long way off and error margins are huge at that range


The overall pattern this year is OTS, Even without modem support it would be the safe guess. We will see though.

Definitely a possible mid to NE threat down the road...in my amateur opinion. Florida is not 100% safe but highly unlikely again just my opinion
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#143 Postby caneman » Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:39 pm

Jr0d wrote:
caneman wrote:
gatorcane wrote:The GFS shows a clear weakness over Florida and the SW Atlantic with the Bermuda High shunted east. So the storms turns north over the Eastern Bahamas. The forecast is similar to the Euro.


The only thing clear is that is a long way off and error margins are huge at that range


The overall pattern this year is OTS, Even without modem support it would be the safe guess. We will see though.

Definitely a possible mid to NE threat down the road...in my amateur opinion. Florida is not 100% safe but highly unlikely again just my opinion


There are many years with the majority of storms going out to sea yet 1 or 2 sneak through
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#144 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:00 pm

18z HWRF is west…

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#145 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:25 pm

0z Earlies. Notable TVCN shifted west, it was right of the official track at 18z, now it's left of it.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#146 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:33 pm

18Z Euro
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#147 Postby toad strangler » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:37 pm

Jr0d wrote:
caneman wrote:
gatorcane wrote:The GFS shows a clear weakness over Florida and the SW Atlantic with the Bermuda High shunted east. So the storms turns north over the Eastern Bahamas. The forecast is similar to the Euro.


The only thing clear is that is a long way off and error margins are huge at that range



The overall pattern this year is OTS, Even without modem support it would be the safe guess. We will see though.

Definitely a possible mid to NE threat down the road...in my amateur opinion. Florida is not 100% safe but highly unlikely again just my opinion


The overall pattern almost every single year in recorded history with systems in this spot is OTS. It’s the Atlantic Basin super highway. That’s the safest call to make at this juncture.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#148 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:38 pm

HWRF, unrealistically aggressive based on expected conditions IMO.

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#149 Postby caneman » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:58 pm

toad strangler wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
caneman wrote:
The only thing clear is that is a long way off and error margins are huge at that range



The overall pattern this year is OTS, Even without modem support it would be the safe guess. We will see though.

Definitely a possible mid to NE threat down the road...in my amateur opinion. Florida is not 100% safe but highly unlikely again just my opinion


The overall pattern almost every single year in recorded history with systems in this spot is OTS. It’s the Atlantic Basin super highway. That’s the safest call to make at this juncture.


There is no safe call to make right now. It's too far out and some models have shifted West. Some taking it just South of the islands. Some keep it weaker and further West. There is no super highway OTS from just below the islands. And each storm and set up and timing is completely unique. I don't care if 90% of storms go out to sea. You don't know which will be the 10%.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#150 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:00 pm

tolakram wrote:HWRF, unrealistically aggressive based on expected conditions IMO.

https://i.imgur.com/vGxSryO.gif


After the upgrade to Fiona, I wonder how far off this really will be. The fact that this system has been stronger than what much of the guidance has suggested is a bit concerning to me.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Models

#151 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:36 pm

Indeed!

BobHarlem wrote:0z Earlies. Notablle TVCN shifted west, it was right of the official track at 18z, now it's left of it.
https://i.imgur.com/5Tf5XQu.png
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#152 Postby floridasun » Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:41 pm

i think all depend on weakness that may happen with high off coast line
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#153 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:43 pm

0z Icon stays south of Puerto Rico and cuts a hard right just as it gets near Hispaniola. It winds up east of the 12z position toward the end, generally heading near or west of Bermuda.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#154 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:31 pm

CMC is all in on its west track… stays weak just long enough to miss the northeast connection and slips in under the ridge and is GOM bound. Either the CMC is a genius or it’s in crack. I’m guessing the latter.


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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#155 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:34 pm

0z GFS stronger with a potential hurricane threat for PR. Looks like its overall much further east than the 18z run which makes sense to me, stronger storms usually get north quicker.

Edit: Looks like it's turning back to the west as a major near Bermuda. Way far out though
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#156 Postby Keldeo1997 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:37 pm

Looks like its getting trapped. Watch out east coast.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#157 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:44 pm

CMC has it in for NOLA… Katrina repeat if that happens.


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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#158 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:46 pm

Keldeo1997 wrote:Looks like its getting trapped. Watch out east coast.

Looks like a slowdown and possibly a loop but on the 500mb there is clearly an exit North. Should get scooped up and out.


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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#159 Postby blp » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:47 pm

GEFS is further west than the Ops run
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Models

#160 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:48 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:CMC is all in on its west track… stays weak just long enough to miss the northeast connection and slips in under the ridge and is GOM bound. Either the CMC is a genius or it’s in crack. I’m guessing the latter.


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Actually seems like a pretty significant eastward shift to me, at least in the long range. Maybe it’s finally on its way to eventually converge with the other solutions
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