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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#701 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:41 am

underthwx wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Ubuntwo wrote:There's also a low-level recon flight leaving this afternoon.


Yep. Noaa's Miss Piggy departs from St Croix at 3 PM EDT.


St. Croix?...oh wow.....I thought all NOAA flights originated from Biloxi?....


The AF Planes come from Biloxi & sometimes Texas (One was moved to Texas because of Ida), NOAA Flights also can be moved to various locations, like St. Croix (Mentioned here) & Miami
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#702 Postby KirbyDude25 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:43 am

underthwx wrote:St. Croix?...oh wow.....I thought all NOAA flights originated from Biloxi?....

They have a few planes based in St. Croix in order to have easier access to storms east of the Antilles
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#703 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:45 am

Miss Piggy’s flight from St Croix to Sam is gonna be one long flight…

Both majors in both hemispheres — Sam and Mindulle — are struggling with internal dynamics and EWRCs today. However, I think Sam has a slightly better structure. Both have good outflow/banding structures, but Mindulle’s core is way more of a mess.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#704 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:46 am

Incomplete CDO W ring, Upper Level NW Wind Shear broke the Ring . . .

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#705 Postby Ubuntwo » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:48 am

Iceresistance wrote:Incomplete CDO W ring, Upper Level NW Wind Shear broke the Ring . . .

https://s9.gifyu.com/images/GOES16_1km_ir_202109251535_8.50_17.00_-53.75_-39.75_bd1_ltng16_hgwy_warn_latlon_weathernerds.png

Sam has healthy outflow to the northwest, any shear is out of the southwest.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#706 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:48 am

Sam is showing a well developed core, a good build up around the eye and 2 bands fanning out. However the south west side of Sam still a bit bare but there is convection forming a band in that area as time progresses.

GOES-16 Proxy Visible + Optical Depth. Source - https://col.st/bawHZ

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#707 Postby Teban54 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:49 am

Iceresistance wrote:Incomplete CDO W ring, Upper Level NW Wind Shear broke the Ring . . .

https://s9.gifyu.com/images/GOES16_1km_ir_202109251535_8.50_17.00_-53.75_-39.75_bd1_ltng16_hgwy_warn_latlon_weathernerds.png

Already seems to be building back the W ring rather quickly on latest 1-minute imagery.

Also, to my untrained eye, SW shear already seems to be lower than last night, or at least doesn't have as much of an impact on Sam now.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#708 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:51 am

underthwx wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Ubuntwo wrote:There's also a low-level recon flight leaving this afternoon.


Yep. Noaa's Miss Piggy departs from St Croix at 3 PM EDT.


St. Croix?...oh wow.....I thought all NOAA flights originated from Biloxi?....


As cycloneye mentioned they moved them to St Croix when storms are east of the Lesser Antilles.
AF recons' home base is Biloxi MS.
NOAA's recons' home base is Lakeland FL.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#709 Postby underthwx » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:52 am

ChrisH-UK wrote:Sam is showing a well developed core, a good build up around the eye and 2 bands fanning out. However the south west side of Sam still a bit bare but there is convection forming a band in that area as time progresses.

GOES-16 Proxy Visible + Optical Depth. Source - https://col.st/bawHZ

https://i.imgur.com/84naGZM.png


Sam is looking very healthy atm....is a RI at a leveling off period?....or is Sam going to take off and get much stronger?
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#710 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:58 am

CDO W Ring basically Complete again, CMG is also starting to show up elsewhere on the CDO, could an early sign of development of a CMG ring, but only time will tell if that's the case . . .

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#711 Postby Ubuntwo » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:12 am

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#712 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:14 am

The eye is about to clear out again. The cloud tops are symmetrically increasing in height, indicative of a very stable and intensifying eyewall. It is unlikely undergoing an EWRC IMO.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#713 Postby Teban54 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:15 am

Sam seems to love alternating between warm eye and cold cloud tops.

Edit: Man, I'm already spending all my time watching Sam, and it will still be around with us as a major for 5+ days...
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#714 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:25 am

CMG Ring Developing . . .

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#715 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:34 am

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#716 Postby DioBrando » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:35 am


will look better than larry ever was tbh
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#717 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:38 am

Sam is developing a complete CMG CDO Ring combined with a OW Eye . . .

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#718 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:52 am

Man this looks like its going to compete with Ida within a matter of hours.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#719 Postby DioBrando » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:55 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Man this looks like its going to compete with Ida within a matter of hours.

Sam's probably gonna end up like Gabrielle 1989 tbh:
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Does anyone know what ACE Gabrielle produced?
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#720 Postby WiscoWx02 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:56 am

Tropical Tidbits is back!!!!!! Just in time to watch the cloud tops around the entire eye plummet in temperature :eek: Was not expecting that and am now eating my words from earlier. Would guess category 4 is just around the corner if it isn't there already.
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