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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update = Is Annular

#681 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:58 pm

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update = Is Annular

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update = Is Annular

#683 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:16 pm

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TheDreamTraveler wrote:It's absolutely amazing how similar this is to Isabel. Sameish area, same time of year...annular...pinwheel eye...similar strength too

Not quite strong as Isabel and not as symmetric either. We are talking about a CAT3 vs CAT5 despite both being annular


Also for some reason seems insistent on going through ERC’s despite its annular structure.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update = Is Annular

#684 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:18 pm

Larry is up to 18.9 ACE as of the 5pm advisory. It’ll likely hit 20 ACE at the 11pm advisory, and since it’s forecast to be a major for the next 60-72 hours, it’ll probably be at least 30 ACE by Friday morning.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion Update = Is Annular

#685 Postby AnnularCane » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:08 pm

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supercane4867 wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:It's absolutely amazing how similar this is to Isabel. Sameish area, same time of year...annular...pinwheel eye...similar strength too

Not quite strong as Isabel and not as symmetric either. We are talking about a CAT3 vs CAT5 despite both being annular


Also for some reason seems insistent on going through ERC’s despite its annular structure.


They all have their own little "quirks," if you want to call it that. :)
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#686 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:23 pm

Hurricane Larry really loves EWRC
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#687 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:31 pm

Yesterday’s EWRC finished up pretty quickly and the eye contracted quickly as well. All of Larry’s EWRC have been fast and seamless. Since shear remains low for the next 48 hours or so, this cycle could also be successful, although dry air still lurks around and could get entrained in the core during this very vulnerable stage.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#688 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:36 pm

UKMET peaks this near 920mb/118kts in about 48 hours.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#689 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:37 pm

Inner eyewall has started to erode

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#690 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:50 pm

A higher OHC pocket is coming up in 12-18hrs, right in time for the EWRC to finish up and recon to arrive.
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The outer eyewall is barely bigger than the old one, so this should be another quick cycle.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#691 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:27 pm

Newfoundland is still at risk of a landfall. It's in almost half of NHC's cone. Definitely pay attention if you're there.

Model thread has been dead for 2 or 3 days so I feel this was important to say since there are a few posters who live there and possibly people viewing the forums as well
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#693 Postby SconnieCane » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:24 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:Newfoundland is still at risk of a landfall. It's in almost half of NHC's cone. Definitely pay attention if you're there.

Model thread has been dead for 2 or 3 days so I feel this was important to say since there are a few posters who live there and possibly people viewing the forums as well


AFAIK, storms are typically weakening/undergoing ET by the time they get to Atlantic Canada, correct? Post-tropical Dorian received some baroclinic enhancement and was pretty rough in Nova Scotia, although not catastrophically so. Last year's Teddy wasn't nearly as bad as feared. Seems in recent decades only Igor was really bad there.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#694 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:34 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:Newfoundland is still at risk of a landfall. It's in almost half of NHC's cone. Definitely pay attention if you're there.

Model thread has been dead for 2 or 3 days so I feel this was important to say since there are a few posters who live there and possibly people viewing the forums as well


AFAIK, storms are typically weakening/undergoing ET by the time they get to Atlantic Canada, correct? Post-tropical Dorian received some baroclinic enhancement and was pretty rough in Nova Scotia, although not catastrophically so. Last year's Teddy wasn't nearly as bad as feared. Seems in recent decades only Igor was really bad there.


I'm not sure when extra tropical transition will happen but before newfoundland it shows it as a 105mph hurricane and after newfoundland shows it post tropical at 80mph

I took a look at Igor and it's definitely a beast of its own because it had such a huge windfield as a hurricane but it had 87mph max winds when it hit Newfoundland. Larry is supposed to come out of NF with 80mph sustained winds still. Obviously that's if it takes the west side of the path
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#695 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:33 am

This EWRC is going very poorly. Larry might not be able to recover this time.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#696 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:59 am

Larry does not look good right now . . .

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#697 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:05 am

Pressure is up to the low 960s, and the wind field is very lopsided — Cat 1 winds in the SW quadrant and winds supporting 95-100 kt in the NE quad.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#698 Postby SouthernBreeze » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:07 am

NHC nailed it again! They said last night was to be start of Larry's decline
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#699 Postby SconnieCane » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:49 am

SouthernBreeze wrote:NHC nailed it again! They said last night was to be start of Larry's decline


...and here I thought the UKMET might be on to something with those Cat. 5 pressures near Bermuda. Turns out I needed to eliminate the word "to." :lol:
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#700 Postby PavelGaborik » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:03 am

SconnieCane wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:Newfoundland is still at risk of a landfall. It's in almost half of NHC's cone. Definitely pay attention if you're there.

Model thread has been dead for 2 or 3 days so I feel this was important to say since there are a few posters who live there and possibly people viewing the forums as well


AFAIK, storms are typically weakening/undergoing ET by the time they get to Atlantic Canada, correct? Post-tropical Dorian received some baroclinic enhancement and was pretty rough in Nova Scotia, although not catastrophically so. Last year's Teddy wasn't nearly as bad as feared. Seems in recent decades only Igor was really bad there.


The remnants of Matthew merged with a low pressure system and caused very significant damage in Eastern Cape Breton in 2016.
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